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 Posted - April 04 2009 : 6:52:08 PM
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I have one of those heavy pale green die cast specimens that could be used as a brick - can anyone tell me approximately when they were manufactured and in which country?
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Posted - April 05 2009 : 05:57:13 AM
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hi tanked,i have one,they were made from 1952,with diecast loco and tender,mine was made in usa,ken
mine has black pilot,but was told some had the green pilot
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Posted - April 05 2009 : 4:23:31 PM
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It also was made originaly in dark green.
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Posted - April 05 2009 : 7:24:04 PM
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quote:hi tanked,i have one,they were made from 1952,with diecast loco and tender,mine was made in usa,ken
mine has black pilot,but was told some had the green pilot
Originally posted by catfordken-April 05 2009: 05:57:13 AM
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Ken
I have the twin of yours.
Tons of character.
Does yours want about 75% of the power pack output before it will budge?
Cheers
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Posted - April 06 2009 : 06:10:29 AM
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| mine moves at very low power,uk power packs are like clocks,6 oclock to 12 reverse,12 till 6 forward,12 being the off,at 1 its moving at 4 its flying,ken
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Posted - April 06 2009 : 09:45:30 AM
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quote:mine moves at very low power,uk power packs are like clocks,6 oclock to 12 reverse,12 till 6 forward,12 being the off,at 1 its moving at 4 its flying,ken
Originally posted by catfordken-April 06 2009: 06:10:29 AM
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Hmm
Are they difficult to open up to get at the motor??
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Posted - April 06 2009 : 3:21:58 PM
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if i remember rightly 1 screw from chimney and 2 under cab ken
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Posted - April 07 2009 : 10:47:33 AM
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quote:if i remember rightly 1 screw from chimney ken
Originally posted by catfordken-April 06 2009: 3:21:58 PM
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Ok
will check that out.
Thanks
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Posted - April 08 2009 : 12:44:33 AM
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There's one screw in the stack, and two under the cab.
The Tyco Depot
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Posted - April 21 2009 : 2:20:31 PM
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quote:
Ken
I have the twin of yours.
Tons of character.
Does yours want about 75% of the power pack output before it will budge?
Cheers
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TE:
It should do better than that! Either there is too much friction somewhere, or a bad connection, or a weakened motor magnet.
Take out the motor, put it back together, and see how it coasts...it should roll downhill pretty freely. If the drivers lock, there's a bind somewhere.
Clean the wheels, the tops of the tender trucks, and the tender kingpins.
Put a speck of oil on the rods and motor bearings, and some Labelle grease on the worm.
If you have a weak motor magnet, you can replace it pretty easily with a stack of neodymium flat magnets. I use four 1/8 x 1/4 x 1/2 magnets, magnetized across the thickness.
As long as there's nothing really badly worn, this loco should run pretty well.
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Posted - April 21 2009 : 6:42:08 PM
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 here's the record for the sounds of 1401 same wheel arangement as the Crecent Limited (4-6-2) this one is in the Smithsonian 
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Posted - April 22 2009 : 07:04:59 AM
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| hi microbusss would love that for just the cover
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 5:37:42 PM
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Here is the original Tyco and Mantua Crescent Limited locomotive.
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 5:49:28 PM
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heres the last mantua offering made in china,pot luck if you get a good one,the original is typical open frame,but it flies ken
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 5:55:08 PM
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Ken,
Does the power pack work on similar engines. I have seen engines that pull more than a small pack can deliver. Forgive me for a bloody obvious question, just a thought.
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 6:30:42 PM
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quote:hi tanked,i have one,they were made from 1952,with diecast loco and tender,mine was made in usa,ken
mine has black pilot,but was told some had the green pilot
Originally posted by catfordken - April 05 2009 : 05:57:13 AM
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I could've gotten one of those original black 4-6-2 for $25. But it was dirty as heck. The engine did run though but it ran really choppily forward and ran beautifully in reverse just like my Tyco trolley.
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 6:31:31 PM
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hi JRG1951,all my power packs are old school,made in 80s/90s and made by gaugemaster,12v 1.5 amp output,with 12v dc uncontrolled or 16v ac,ken
photos above from ebay
this is all i have at the mo to play with,loft still needs finishing
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 6:33:57 PM
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quote:all my power packs are old school,made in 80s/90s and made by gaugemaster,12v 1.5 amp output,with 12v dc uncontrolled or 16v ac,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - March 13 2014 : 6:31:31 PM
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My Hornby Flying Scotsman uses 12 volts to operate. At least, according to the base and manual for that engine. Anyway, how well did those Tyco Mantua Pacifics run? Do they run pretty good or are they very poor runners? I see them at pretty much every train show I go to and I'm planning on picking one up sometime.
-Steve
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 8:21:30 PM
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My experience with the M/T 4-6-2's is that they are rugged when tuned up and clean.
Heavy locomotives... got a particular growl... quite reliable when all goes well.
I've got this version as well as the Camelback/Mother-Hubbard Pacific and both are good runners.
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Posted - March 13 2014 : 11:44:58 PM
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quote:My experience with the M/T 4-6-2's is that they are rugged when tuned up and clean.
Heavy locomotives... got a particular growl... quite reliable when all goes well.
I've got this version as well as the Camelback/Mother-Hubbard Pacific and both are good runners.
John
Originally posted by zebrails - March 13 2014 : 8:21:30 PM
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Good cause most of them that I see are in decent or very good condition. I have very rarely found them in terrible condition.
-Steve
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 1:43:35 PM
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| " . . . got a particular growl . . . " I dig that comment John. I have come to appreciate the difference in sounds that my various Mantua or Tyco locomotives make and I believe I get into that more than I would some DCC produced sound of a real locomotive. Why, I imagine there's some folks would tell you what locomotive was comin' round just by the sound; like some of those old school mechanics hearin' cars.
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 2:17:54 PM
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quote:I have come to appreciate the difference in sounds that my various Mantua or Tyco locomotives make and I believe I get into that more than I would some DCC produced sound of a real locomotive.
Originally posted by Barry - March 14 2014 : 1:43:35 PM |
Also, the sound-equipped engines make a valiant effort to sound like a real locomotive, but you just cannot get a deep throaty chuff out of a 1 inch speaker. The same goes for the diesel rumble. Given all that, why not just appreciate our models for what they are?
Disclaimer, lest I start a flame war: Lots of people like sound-equipped stuff, and more power to them. It's their hobby and they should enjoy it as they wish. I'm just of a personality type (unimaginative) that can't hear pffft as chuff.
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 3:52:32 PM
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neat power packs, Ken But what does the Simulator switch do? 
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 3:54:23 PM
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Honestly most of my locos make so much noise that a sound system would be wasted anyway! And it's just the same as when I was a kid, I hear the "real" sounds in my head and they are just perfect 
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 4:31:52 PM
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| hi ben as it says at bottom it simulates brakes being applied or released,and allows you to choose max speed before loco moves,it gradually releases brakes loco picks up speed to the level you set,and visa versa,ken
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 5:21:51 PM
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quote:neat power packs, Ken But what does the Simulator switch do?
Originally posted by microbusss - March 14 2014 : 3:52:32 PM
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It puts you in the simulator!Just joking. I think the simulator switch has something to do with the power. Care to explain the simulator switch to the forum, catfordken? Microbusss and I would really like to know.
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 6:12:46 PM
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read the posting above your request
repeated again
as it says at bottom it simulates brakes being applied or released,and allows you to choose max speed before loco moves,it gradually releases brakes loco picks up speed to the level you set,and visa versa,ken
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Posted - March 14 2014 : 8:05:44 PM
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quote:read the posting above your request
repeated again
as it says at bottom it simulates brakes being applied or released,and allows you to choose max speed before loco moves,it gradually releases brakes loco picks up speed to the level you set,and visa versa,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - March 14 2014 : 6:12:46 PM
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That's a pretty cool way to make model railroading more realistic.
-Steve
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Posted - March 31 2014 : 2:04:07 PM
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This looks to be about the same item. I have an old B&W photo of one of the club founders showing it off to other club founders, looking pleased as punch, dating to 1970's. So perhaps this is a Mantua kit. The thing ways as much as a block of iron and takes about twelve volts before it even thinks about moving, but has the tractive effort of a mule. Tends to run pretty fast or not at all. I count on the drag of the train to regulate its overall speed. I believe the tender is hand painted emblem with decal letters. I need to examine it more closely, however.
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Posted - March 31 2014 : 6:58:28 PM
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You should show us that photo at some point Chops because it would be kinda cool to see a before and after type thing.
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 12:58:04 AM
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quote: [perhaps this is a Mantua kit. The thing ways as much as a block of iron and takes about twelve volts before it even thinks about moving, but has the tractive effort of a mule. Tends to run pretty fast or not at all.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â March 31 2014Â :Â 2:04:07 PM
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Those were produced as kits and RTR. They're a Mantua product but also sold under the Tyco brand. Depending on when it was built, it could have a big motor connected to the worm via a flexible shaft or it could have the same smaller motors as Mantua's switch engines. The smaller motor is a bit small for that size engine, but it can be made more powerful with rare earth magnets, which would lower the starting voltage and increase the torque.
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