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GOT THIS ONE IN THE MAIL TODAY BUT FUDGE
IT'S FALLING APART AND I ALMOST GAVE MY SHORTS FOR IT
I WANNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS IT SO I CAN ASK FOR PARTS
TO YOU GUYS OR TO A COMPANY THAT SELLS THEM
RIVAROSSI 4-6-2... BURLINGTON ROUTE... TENDER SEEMS TO BE AHM
WRITTEN UNDER IT BUT I KNOW THESE 2 COMPANIES ROLL TOGETHER
ANY IDEA ABOUT THE MODEL ..... AND THE YEAR...
TX IN ADVANCE AGAIN...
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Posted - February 10 2009 : 8:06:15 PM
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| BY THE WAY ENGINE'S NUMBER IS 462 (4-6-2)....
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Posted - February 10 2009 : 9:57:04 PM
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| AHM/Rivarossi Pacific...mid '70s when they started using .039" flanges.
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Posted - February 10 2009 : 10:02:00 PM
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| AND WHAT ARE THOSE SORRY... FLANGES....???
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Posted - February 10 2009 : 11:06:25 PM
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| The flanges are the little edges on the wheels that keep it on the track >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flange
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Posted - February 10 2009 : 11:11:23 PM
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Lexlie, it just looks like you need an axle cover, and the center screw. I have them in my junk box.
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Posted - February 11 2009 : 12:16:52 AM
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| That the USRA Heavy Pacific?
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heavy pacific all right but cannot find anything about burlington route
not 100 % sure about the tender says ahm but????
as for the loco the road number 462 did not appear anywhere
calling all columbos
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Posted - February 14 2009 : 12:11:56 AM
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| Now that you mention it, a closer look reveals a pretty spare set of side rods---definitely not AHM.
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Posted - February 14 2009 : 12:39:50 AM
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That's the AHM economy version.
#5088-E C B & Q (Burlington)
http://www.hoseeker.net/AHMRivarossiassembly/ahm462pacificrpg1.jpg
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Posted - February 14 2009 : 10:38:56 AM
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| Learn something new everyday---never would have thought that AHM would've gone the Tyco route.
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Posted - February 17 2009 : 09:49:31 AM
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Ray has got it. The economy pacific. You shouldn't have payed that much for it. No detail. Good parts to fix a much better heavy pacific.
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Posted - February 18 2009 : 8:24:46 PM
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WAS 49 TOO MUCH MONEY....
I'M A BEGINNER BUT USUALLY A LUCKY ONE...
TX
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Posted - February 18 2009 : 8:44:03 PM
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I have picked them up for less but they needed more work to get them running than yours.
If it runs after putting the bottom cover on it I would be happy with the price.
I don't think I'd part with any of mine for less.
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Posted - February 18 2009 : 8:56:19 PM
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I REALLY GO BERZERK WHEN A SEE A RIVAROSSI
SURE IT'S NOT TYCO.....
I JUST BOUGHT A NEW BIGBOY WHEN I RECEIVE IT I THINK I'LL WET MY PANTS...
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Posted - February 18 2009 : 9:51:51 PM
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quote:
I JUST BOUGHT A NEW BIGBOY WHEN I RECEIVE IT I THINK I'LL WET MY PANTS...
PAT
Originally posted by lexlie-February 18 2009: 8:56:19 PM
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They are nice---and a hoot to watch going around a 20" curve...
http://s126.photobucket.com/albums/p96/1shaygetz/videos/?action=view¤t=DSCF8082.flv
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Posted - February 19 2009 : 08:00:47 AM
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| i am not a real fan of rivarossi,sure they look good,but they can give you lots of hard to solve problems,athearn diesels,mantua/tyco steam are my personnel favourites for their money ken
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Posted - February 19 2009 : 7:00:06 PM
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i began collecting trains trying to keep away from trouble
is that supposed to be part of the hobby guess so  but for now it will stay in the foam until i begin my layout, about 20 years from now (i want by basement back from the kids).
But i also like less expensive stuff like tyco sharks with lovely powertorques
i'll try to keep myself in a bit of trouble just for fun
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Posted - February 20 2009 : 12:07:31 AM
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I grew up with Rivarossi, and aside from a clunker here or there they were quite reliable, but they were fragile. Most of my problems came from being too rough on them as a kid.
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Posted - February 20 2009 : 02:53:48 AM
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quote:they were quite reliable, but they were fragile. Most of my problems came from being too rough on them as a kid.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759-February 20 2009: 12:07:31 AM
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I can agree with that.
I have come across a few that had problems with plastic deteriorating but I didn't know the history of the loco, it may have been lubed with oil that wasn't plastic compatible.
I have gotten them to run better with improved electrical pickup, regearing and can motors.
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Posted - February 20 2009 : 5:28:11 PM
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I haven't come across any Rivarossi's with deteriorating plastic yet, but I have come across 3 Chattanoogas with boilers that just flake apart... I don't know if that's from Tyco's smoke fluid, or because previous owners used something like 3-in-1 in the smoke unit.
The worst Rivarossi design is the plastic motor mount in these Pacifics. I bought a Southern Crescent in 1978 (spent everything I had), and couldn't understand why the motor screws kept loosening up. It turned out the motor was melting the mount, and it eventually melted the plastic drive shaft as well. I don't know why it ran so hot, but I spoke to someone on another forum who had the same thing happen. Strange, because the Hudson has the same frame, but with a metal mount. It's not only sturdier, it helps the motor to cool itself, since it acts as a heat sink.
It's been remotored since. I still have the original motor in my parts box, and it runs cool now. I saw your regear and remotor of the newer RR pacific, Ray. How did you get the JB Weld to form the gear cover? I haven't found it to be that strong, even with everything degreased. Is it because I bought the quick set type?
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Posted - February 20 2009 : 5:46:34 PM
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quote: I saw your regear and remotor of the newer RR pacific, Ray. How did you get the JB Weld to form the gear cover? I haven't found it to be that strong, even with everything degreased. Is it because I bought the quick set type?
Originally posted by NickelPlate759-February 20 2009: 5:28:11 PM
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I haven't used the quick set JB Weld, I'm not sure if there is any difference.
I have run into situations where JB weld hasn't held up as well as other epoxies though.
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Posted - February 21 2009 : 12:28:55 AM
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I had the melted motor mount problem also on another one I rebuilt.
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Posted - February 23 2009 : 3:52:34 PM
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My first motor replacement was this Sagami, but it was too speedy with the stock gearing.
I recently decided to use a much cheaper motor, the one IHC used in their GG1's. It has much lower RPM's, and is completely silent. I had to hog a lot of plastic out of the boiler and firebox to make it fit, and put a floor in the cab.
The motor is wired directly to the drawbar.
Here's the old girl back together. She's been through a lot, but runs better than ever. Btw, I added the handrails to the tender using wire and stanchions from my scrapped Chattanooga when I was a teenager. I actually used a soldering iron to sink the stanchions into the plastic because I didn't own a pin vise.
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