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Hey guys:

Was wondering if there was a consensus of which details added to a steamer give the biggest impact visually for the effort made?

Some of the things I had in mind were:

1) Pilot support rails (Usually on switchers)
2) Roof/Cab vent doos
3) Cut bars
4) Number boards
5) ...?

Any thoughts???

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heaters and compressers on a pacific look great and make them look real butch ken
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Hey Ken:

Yup I can see that. Good call! Anyone else?

One of the things I've become aware of since our Ray infected me with the Steam bug, is that at some point the detail moves beyond the point of reasonable handling! So a compromise is in order.... the question is where, or economically what will add WOW! but no OW!!!

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bit ott but this will illustrate what i mean ken

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Wow Ken, you weren't kidding.

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another addition i like is this conversion of a mantua pacific to a cab forward from yardbird classics ken


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Must be old age but #1309 is sexier than Playboy!

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thats one conversion i will be doing myself with glazing and boiler detail ken
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Ken;

Thats some kind of Mallet isn't it?

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no idea its a pacific with a cab at the end and detailed ken
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I meant the #1309.

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yes a b&o sorry gareth
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Boo-Koo NUMBER 1!

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sorry c&o 1309
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Gonna kitbash a MDC 0-6-0T into a 0-6-4T heavy dock/transfer lokie. She'll have a cowcatcher on the rear, footboards on front...

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the thing about american railways is that any loco looks good with whatever you put on it,uk railways you cannot do that with as they were all standard,ken
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Hell even the Pennsy for whom standardization was a fetish, still variety, wow!

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gwr were the ones for standerdisation,no rogue parts ever used all off the shelf,any locos nuts and bolts would fit another,till br got there hands on it anyway ken
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Hey Ken:

GWR is Great Western right?

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yes gareth the best in most peoples eyes here in uk ken
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Can't believe this thread isn't more active. Haven't seen anything from ray though he and I have talked about this or Shaygetz...

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probably at their regular place ken
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I think Tyco guys cause they came later are more apt to be Dieselers rather than steam heads.

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do not understand your last coment ken
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I was referring to lack of comments on modelling steam with detail additions...

Most Tyco collectors I know have much more diesel than steam

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if i remember correctly thats where you came in,rs diesels were your fav along with the deltic,were they not ken
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You guys seem to be talking up a storm lately!

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mm1498 gets lonely as we seem to be only ones here at times
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It's cause we are ancient and venerable grasshopper, and really bored!

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i belong to the grumpy old git brigade myself,got me first cold weather payment this year,so i bought another loco that keeps me warm at heart ken
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That would be "jammy" grumpy old git wouldn't you say?

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i had some good luck last year,lets hope we all have a good one this year ken
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I hope you're right Ken!

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I missed this one. What a Pandora's Box this is, Gareth, There's so many possibilities for steam details and appliances, but of course it inevitably starts a fight about whether it's prototypical for the roadname, at least on some boards...

Flying airpumps like those above on that B&O beastie are really impressive. Certain roads like Great Northern were famous for them. Another great addition is the Elesco feedwater heater atop the smokebox, which also gives them a "don't mess with me" appearance. More common details are piping beneath the running boards for the air pumps and reversing gear, which Dan from Yardbird makes for Mantua steamers, and will custom bend something for you if you ask.

If you want a good primer on steamer appliances and their placement, find a copy of the March '07 issue of Model Railroader, which has an excellent arrticle on how to detail your loco.

You gotta love American steam locos. They look more like sinister masses of plumbing designed by H.R. Giger than a mode of transportation.

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now there is a challenge forget prototypes get a little 4 wheel switcher and load it up compressers,air pumps,elescos etc,give it a name and away ya go ken
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Don't forget two sets of cylinders...
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