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 Posted - December 27 2007 : 8:21:11 PM
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This is one of the Athearn 0-6-0 I got off Ebay.
All this one needs is the plastic axle centers replaced.
The other one I got with it needs the same, plus one set of drivers and all the siderods and valve gear.
I'm hoping to find the parts to fix the other one too.
Ray
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Posted - December 27 2007 : 8:38:10 PM
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How does it run?
I like the tender.....
Ted
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Posted - December 27 2007 : 9:01:35 PM
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I haven't tried to run it. The drivers are slipping out of quarter due to the cracked axle centers ( I knew they would be cracked when I bid on them. It was common for them to crack, like the P2K gear problem)
I fixed an Athearn 0-4-2 Lil' Monster that had the same problem and plan to repair these the same way.
I think they are pretty sharp looking for 1962 tooling.
Ray
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Posted - December 27 2007 : 9:44:57 PM
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Hey Ray:
I have a NIB Rock Island BL2 from P2K. assuming I have the gear problem you mention, what's the fix???
-G.
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Posted - December 28 2007 : 01:43:08 AM
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quote:Hey Ray:
I have a NIB Rock Island BL2 from P2K. assuming I have the gear problem you mention, what's the fix???
-G.
Originally posted by romcat - December 27 2007 : 8:44:57 PM
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Either get replacement wheelsets from Walthers or drop in a set of Athearn #40019 wheelsets.
If you can find just the Athearn 12 tooth axle gear they will fit on the P2K axles if you ream the hole in the gear with a 3/32" drill bit.
I have found that if the hole isn't reamed it will stress the gear and eventually crack.
Ray
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Posted - December 28 2007 : 02:10:35 AM
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Hey Ray:
I'll have to get the shell off and look!
-G
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 Posted - December 29 2007 : 01:38:03 AM
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| Are they both 1272 SP's
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Posted - December 29 2007 : 02:13:55 AM
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quote:Are they both 1272 SP's
Originally posted by cmgnnut - December 29 2007 : 12:38:03 AM
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Yes, they are.
I saw in the 1962 catalog that there was a Pennsy version listed. I'm not sure if there were others or not.
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Posted - December 29 2007 : 10:34:38 AM
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Hey G...
Got the same unit...same problem.....
I emailed Walthers....My FREE axles are in the mail...all 4 of mine are cracked.....Athearn axles will work on those as well....from F/GP/SW/S-12/ GP 35...etc....(someone in this forum told me that)...
Good luck with yours....I think my 44T GE switcher is "cracked" too...it growls bad in curves and through switches...
ted
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 Posted - December 31 2007 : 08:07:36 AM
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just a slight note with Athearn/P2K wheel matching axle gears...
You may need to make sure that the replacement wheel sets are not restricted by the brake-shoe portion of the trucks.
Just a note from experience.
Plus, a couple of club members also had those chirping P2K problems. I had a scrap Athearn box. Replaced the P2K wheels with said Athearn ones. Increased the P2K traction.
The P2K wheels are machined.
The older Athearn wheels are press-cast, which attributes to the "less than perfect" surface area of those wheels and flanges.
Mind you, be aware that the older Athearn wheels may also bite the railheads, causing a lift/roll-up of these wheels on any imperfect curve or points on smaller radii switches.
Best of fortunes to you.
John
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Posted - December 31 2007 : 08:44:59 AM
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Hey Ray
I just worked on a couple of Bachmann trainset Fs...The dummy front trucks have plastic axle centers on them..if you can come up with those that may be a fix...if they fit..I'll look and see if I have a couple layin around
Ted
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Posted - December 31 2007 : 11:49:37 AM
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quote:Hey Ray
I just worked on a couple of Bachmann trainset Fs...The dummy front trucks have plastic axle centers on them..if you can come up with those that may be a fix...if they fit..I'll look and see if I have a couple layin around
Ted
Mid-MO
Originally posted by midmo1Â -Â December 31 2007Â :Â 07:44:59 AM
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The axle centers on the Athearn 0-6-0 are about 1/4" OD with 1/8" axle stubs. I may use a piece pf nylon rod and machine and bore it on the lathe. sounds easy, however, the geared axle center is split also. I may have to re machine the shoulders of the gear and press a brass sleeve over them to hold the split in the gear together.
Ray
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Posted - March 05 2008 : 10:58:09 PM
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I rounded up three of these and the two that run seem to have a bind, so I'm betting I'll find the same drive issue. Might be worth the trouble to set up and machine a batch of extra axle centers. Going to be tough to find just the right drive gear to replace the original though.
Is the 0-4-2 gear the same part? I have a box here somewhere with 2 or 3 of them in pieces in it, and one that does run. Well, it did, I haven't had it on a layout in years.
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Posted - March 06 2008 : 8:19:27 PM
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It's a shame that Athearn's steam locos all suffered from cracked axles, because they were all nice looking models, and it doesn't seem like an insurmountable problem. I particularly like their Pacific.
I got a Lionel HO Pacific in a trade years ago that had a bad nylon axle gear, and it was a paperweight until I found someone selling replacement drivers with brass gears. Unfortunately, I had to buy 10 of them to get it. It doesn't look nearly as good as the Athearn, and it sounds like a coffee grinder.
According to these instructions, this 0-6-0 was available as a kit.
http://hoseeker.net/assemblyexplosionAthearn/Assembly%20Explosion%20Athearn%200-6-0.jpg
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 06:16:41 AM
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| The Pacific seems to be the engine Athearn tried to cure. There are at least three variations, amazing for an engine with a 7 year production run - some have metal rimmed plastic drivers, others are all plastic, and some have the drive gear on the middle axle while others have it on the rearmost axle. I have 2 complete engines and 2 or 3 of them in pieces - one, the engine bed is warped and fatigued.
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Posted - March 07 2008 : 11:50:56 AM
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I have one of the first run pacifics with the gear on the rear axle. You wouldn't happen to have an extra pilot and front coupler for one.
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Posted - November 04 2008 : 1:38:06 PM
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I don't think I have any spares, but the stuff is scattered around in three boxes to sort out.
I'm currently looking to round up some older junker gear drive diesels to see if any of them share the gear used in the 0-6-0. Athearn used so many standardized parts I'd be more surprised if that axle gear is unique to the loco. Even if it is, I'd bet someone like NorthWest Short Line makes a gear of the right diameter and tooth count - it's just a matter of how to mount it up.
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