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 Posted - June 21 2022 : 03:36:35 AM
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Hello Happy Members!
For the first time, I will finally be able to build a big layout (for me !) in H0 scale. Dimensions: 55" x 74".
It will be a double track layout because I love watching my trains running trought. I absolutely don't want a "bowl of spaghetti layout" if you see what I mean... All your ideas will be greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot for all your replies.
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 Posted - June 21 2022 : 07:01:21 AM
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The Verdant Valley would seem to offer what you want in a 48x72 footprint, slightly less space than you have. It first appeared in a Kalmbach layout book published over 50 years ago. As presented here it uses Atlas track, but could easily be adapted to other types. Best of all, the minimum radius is 18" which is what I consider the minimum for American style trains.
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510, H0 Atlas Code 83, Straight 9". (bulk) 9
512, H0 Atlas Code 83, Curve radius 18", angle 30º (bulk) 11
513, H0 Atlas Code 83, Curve radius 22", angle 22.5º (bulk) 16
518, H0 Atlas Code 83, Buffer/Bumper 1.26". 1
521, H0 Atlas Code 83, Straight 6". 5
522, H0 Atlas Code 83, Straight 3". 4
524-1, H0 Atlas Code 83, Straight 1". 1
524-1¼, H0 Atlas Code 83, Straight 1.25". 2
524-2½, H0 Atlas Code 83, Straight 2.5". 2
524-¾, H0 Atlas Code 83, Straight 0.75". 2
534, H0 Atlas Code 83, Curve radius 18", angle 10º 4
540, H0 Atlas Code 83, Left turnout 9". (remote) 2
541, H0 Atlas Code 83, Right turnout 9". (remote)
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Posted - June 21 2022 : 11:02:15 AM
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| Many thanks for this very interesting plan. It looks like an Anyrail plan. If so, could you send me the Anyrail file (PM)? Thanks.
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Posted - June 21 2022 : 1:18:45 PM
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Got it (Hope so) !
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Posted - June 22 2022 : 02:40:19 AM
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The Peco/Hornby version:
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Posted - June 22 2022 : 08:10:28 AM
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And now, my version with Trix C track. The curves radii are : 17"1/4 and 20"1/4.
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Posted - June 22 2022 : 08:54:39 AM
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| That's the beauty of Anyrail. You can take a plan drawn with one brand of track and redraw it for another brand. You can even change the scale of a plan easily, such as scaling up an N sclae plan for HO or vice versa. Best of all, you can experiment with small variations of the basic plan without having to redraw the entire thing. SCARM is similar, but I don't use it as much because I can;t put switches on an upgrade with it. And any railroad I actually build is going to have them on an upgrade.
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Posted - June 22 2022 : 09:56:16 AM
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| I totally agree with you ! Unfortunately Google can't find any pics of this layout.
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Posted - June 22 2022 : 12:06:46 PM
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It appeared in a book by Kalmbach publishing from the late 1960s and early 1960s, and may have been a project layout in the magazine at one point. Unfortunately, I can't find the magazine it was in though I've looked through the online Model Railroader archives. The book that it is in has plenty of photos. But it's buried in the ton of bins and boxes I have yet to unpack from our move a year ago. As I recall, the layout features a tunnel in the back corner.
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Posted - June 22 2022 : 12:32:33 PM
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| Thank you very much for your help. Much appreciated.
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Posted - June 22 2022 : 8:55:15 PM
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Did you not recently acquire some Peco track? Peco is top of the line,
but it may not have the same radii off the turnouts as Atlas.
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Posted - June 23 2022 : 03:52:15 AM
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| Peco is a very popular brand in Europe but not Atlas. Plus I can order Peco items directly in UK (Hattons).
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Posted - June 23 2022 : 3:53:05 PM
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I'm a big fan of the Gold Hill Central from the March 1984 issue of Model Railroader. It has a divider down the middle, so one side is countryside and the other is urban. It has some interesting switching possibilities.
https://forum.mrhmag.com/post/newbiewait-it-gets-worse-with-a-table-top-of-4-by-6-to-work-with-12207484?pid=1331215407
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Posted - June 24 2022 : 01:07:11 AM
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| A very interesting track plan. Thanks.
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Posted - June 27 2022 : 07:58:35 AM
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quote:Peco is a very popular brand in Europe but not Atlas. Plus I can order Peco items directly in UK (Hattons).
Originally posted by C P LÂ -Â June 23 2022Â :Â 03:52:15 AM
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I used Peco switches before I started handlayng my own. If you stay away from the settrack, the Geometry of Prco switches is very friendly to American style rolling stock. The ones I used came in small, medium and large sizes, which approximated Atlas snap, #4 and #6 switches. The radius of the curved side was 24", 36" and 60" respectively. They worked well right out of the box, though you had to be careful with the electrofrog variety as they were power routing, If you weren;t judicious about where you put feeders and insulating joints you could easily wire a short circuit into your layout.
Certain of these switches had flangeways that were too wide, and wheels would pick the frogs, causing derailments, But this was easily fixed by gluing strips of styrene to the guardrails to narrow the flangeways. Overall, though, I'd consider them top of the line. One nice feature they have is the internal spring that locks the points in place. this makes things like switch motors or hand throws unnecessary unless you want to add them.
As you've found, the geometry on Peco switches is close enough that any railroad designed for Atlas track can be easily redesigned to use Peco instead. I even went so far as to build a track plan from an Atlas book, the Granite GOrge & Northern, using peco switches. The slight modifications I had to make resulted in an extra track in the yard, and a yard lead track.
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Posted - June 27 2022 : 11:10:08 AM
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quote:
thats similar to the N scale read Oak Line I wanted to do in HO scale but do it abit more modern
like just after BN took over since it was a CB&Q line 
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