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I'm gonna double-dip this week, with Ebay $5 scores.
The Tyco Mail Pouch Tobacco 50' box car
The Tyco Jack Frost 50' box car (my 2nd one) 
"Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in Heaven." - Matthew 5:16
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Posted - June 13 2020 : 11:56:35 PM
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Home run, over the backfield fence! Mail Pouch is a solid classic and
I'd never known about the Jack Frost!!
It took a bidding war to land this puppy!
Here is the Bachmann knock off.
This one remains a bit of a mystery. Frame stamped Tyco, but has several unTyco like features
that make's one wonder if it is perhaps an Athearn shell? The paint appears to be factory litho,
no sign of decals.
My first in the quest for the Bubble Gum car was this, which is reliably Tyco:
Edited by - Chops124 on June 14 2020 12:34:27 AM
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 03:54:43 AM
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The AHM Canadian hopper.
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 12:32:24 PM
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| Nice gum cars. Bazooka Joe is interesting. Not an Athearn- they never used side tabs on pluggers but those red trucks are interesting. I can only think of Athearn red trucks under their Illinois Terminal gondolas. Post some closeups of the chassis and trucks if you care to.
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 3:58:05 PM
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 4:41:59 PM
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| I can tell ya one thing. Tyco never body mounted couplers.
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 6:38:11 PM
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Right, but you do see the "Tyco" stamp just below the body mount, no?
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 8:44:55 PM
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| I can see it, but it looks like somebody drilled and tapped for kadee pockets. Better than talgo couplers.
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 9:54:54 PM
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What is most interesting about that Bazooka 50' box car is the quality of the paint. Looks like a factory job....yet the body-mounted couplers and red trucks (which are Tyco's for sure) are totally not like Tyco. It is possible someone mounted those couplers and painted the bottom of the box car & trucks - but as for the actual box car itself, I have my doubts as to whether that is custom.
Chops, can you see any orange peel in the paint? Any signs of a custom job or paint spots/dripping? This could be a pre-pod, or else a REALLY good custom job.
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Posted - June 14 2020 : 10:14:05 PM
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Posted - June 15 2020 : 01:03:57 AM
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The end sills are the same color as the roof. Otherwise no drips, no
splashes. The bill board art shows no sign of decals. It appears to
be silk screen, aka factory paint. I am stumped.
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Posted - June 15 2020 : 01:52:37 AM
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| I have never seen or heard of a Tyco Bazooka box car in my 100 years of being a Tyco fan. I've never seen a Tyco car with the underside painted. Never seen body mounted couplers on a Tyco, nor wheel trucks being painted. I believe it's a nicely finished custom. It a neat piece however it come about!
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Posted - June 15 2020 : 10:29:26 AM
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| I agree with Walt.
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Posted - June 15 2020 : 12:48:35 PM
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It's a Cox shell with a Tyco underframe.
The trucks have had the Talgo brackets trimmed off, and may be Life-Like or Bachmann.
As already stated, the frame mount draft gear has been added.
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Posted - June 15 2020 : 2:08:10 PM
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| Cox, aha! Long standing mystery solved.
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Posted - June 15 2020 : 6:14:18 PM
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quote:Cox, aha! Long standing mystery solved.
Originally posted by Chops124 - June 15 2020 : 2:08:10 PM
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Satisfying, isnt it?
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Posted - June 15 2020 : 9:01:57 PM
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Interesting bash of Tyco and Cox.
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 08:09:07 AM
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| The result looks nice in the end though
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 08:54:55 AM
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The Tyco and Cox pluggers are identical, or nearly so.
Tbe Cox "Champion Spark plugs" car is a common one. No branding on the chassis, though.
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 12:37:41 PM
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My COTW this week will be my two Tyco high-cube reefers. My collection seems to be leaning in a union pacific direction lately.
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 3:57:11 PM
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Here are two clones of the Tyco boxcar. The original old Tyco is in the center.
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 3:58:46 PM
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And an interior view
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 7:12:07 PM
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I did not know that Tyco made these items, it appears to
be an upgrade from the usual paint schemes. Thanks for
posting!
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 8:14:41 PM
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Hi Chops- Ma Fog says hello! The top and bottom cars are not Tyco- only the center one is. I’ll let people ponder a bit before I reveal “The Rest of the Story”
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AHM ended up with the 62 foot Tyco boxcar molds for a while. but i don't know what the other brand is.
My COTW is a TYCO hopper I rebuilt with some 3D printed parts, it has a new end and hopper latch to replace the missing ones and a new brake wheel. My paint matching skills need some work it dried way to dark.
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 9:51:40 PM
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And Bamos is correct! Around 2000 IHC started producing these cars from the Tyco molds.
Here's a little history: http://ho-scaletrains.com/tyco-62-foot-hi-cube-boxcar/
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Posted - June 16 2020 : 11:42:21 PM
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An interesting back story. These molds
got passed around a lot!
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| A lot is an understatement!
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Posted - June 17 2020 : 12:03:20 PM
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Somewhere I read that old molds never die- they just change hands.
Some of the Varney stuff from the 50s and 60s are still being cranked out under new names.
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Posted - June 17 2020 : 12:38:49 PM
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quote:Somewhere I read that old molds never die- they just change hands.
Some of the Varney stuff from the 50s and 60s are still being cranked out under new names.
Originally posted by el rojo grande - June 17 2020 : 12:03:20 PM
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yeah some went to Model Power & Life-Like I think
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Posted - June 17 2020 : 12:41:35 PM
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quote: quote:Somewhere I read that old molds never die- they just change hands.
Some of the Varney stuff from the 50s and 60s are still being cranked out under new names.
Originally posted by el rojo grande - June 17 2020 : 12:03:20 PM
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yeah some went to Model Power & Life-Like I think
Originally posted by microbusss - June 17 2020 : 12:38:49 PM
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Yes, lifelike bought the varney dies, and then butchered them. Have you seen the F7?
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Posted - June 17 2020 : 2:10:35 PM
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It was pretty common for kit manufacturers to lease or buy each others molds. Testors ended up with the matchbox molds which were the old Hawk molds after match box exited the kit business. They also lesed molds from Italieri. The Model Power dies are now at Lionel.
Bill
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Posted - June 19 2020 : 05:48:00 AM
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Marx Lehigh Portland cement in blue.
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Posted - June 19 2020 : 07:45:35 AM
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That Marx is beautiful. I find they track
As good as a high end Kadee.
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