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 Posted - January 13 2016 : 9:28:10 PM
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Are any of these rare?
Who made these?:
This is apparently Mantua:
And this Tyco set.
Thanks for your insight!
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Posted - January 13 2016 : 11:18:01 PM
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Well, the M.A.S.H. set has the Bachmann logo printed right on the box, so that's a pretty good indicator of who made it ;) I would guess that the Eckerd Savings Express and Shop'n'Save Smart Shopper Express sets are Tyco, since they have the Tyco streamlined caboose. The Armed Forces Express and the Shoprite Express are probably LifeLike; they have LifeLike's track in them at any rate.
The Super Bowl Express does seem to be Mantua, though the power pack is from Bachmann
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 10:11:59 AM
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| The John Deer set may not be rare,but the individual pieces are going for a small fortune on Ebay
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 11:00:08 AM
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quote:The John Deere set may not be rare,but the individual pieces are going for a small fortune on Ebay
Originally posted by Retired Alex - January 14 2016 : 10:11:59 AM
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man when it came it was ALREADY a small fortune 
I do want the grocery stores, M*A*S*H, Transformers & Super Bowl Express sets minus the caboose
Already got that one
also I has a set from IGA by Life-Like
Oh btw
AHM did have a Gobots train set too
http://www.toyarchive.com/Gobots/Novelty/BattleTrainSet.html 
Plus NW never did a loco like that
It was a GP 9 originally
Real one is in a museum
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 12:42:10 PM
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quote:
Plus NW never did a loco like that
It was a GP 9 originally
Real one is in a museum
Originally posted by microbusss - January 14 2016 : 11:00:08 AM
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It's still the most believable loco of everything posted! I will never understand the attraction of these fantasy sets. An Eckard Drug Geep? Really?
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 12:52:21 PM
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| The Eckard and Shop and Save are Mehano sets. They have decent running locos for what they are. I picked up the Ecdard one at a garage sale and re-painted the locomotive to a MOW theme. Thinking of re-doing it for Penn Central using some leftover decals I have.
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 1:07:54 PM
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| The Shop N Save, ShopRite, Eckerd & Armed Forces sets were produced by IHC/Mehano. Eckerd was produced 1 year, Shop N Save 2 years (a different set each year) and the ShopRite sets (12 sets, a different one eack year, but one year they sold 2 different sets). You can still get the Armed Forces set. The John Deere sets are not that rare - they just cost a small fortune as Retired Alex stated in the resale market because they are branded "John Deere". The MASH and Transformers are pretty rare, worth more if all the parts are still intact. The Bachmann Bicentennial set and the Mantua SuperBowl Express NFC set are somewhat common.
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 1:42:18 PM
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quote: quote:
Plus NW never did a loco like that
It was a GP 9 originally
Real one is in a museum
Originally posted by microbusss - January 14 2016 : 11:00:08 AM
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It's still the most believable loco of everything posted! I will never understand the attraction of these fantasy sets. An Eckard Drug Geep? Really?
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â January 14 2016Â :Â 12:42:10 PM
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To some people, a billboard loco isn't that much of a stretch from a billboard freight car. For some people, there'd be nostalgia appeal stemming from memories of seeing the sets when they accompanied their parents to the store as children or even owning the sets when they were children. And some people just love cheese. As for what would have been the appeal when they were on store shelves, well... Remember that a lot of kids are less picky, and a lot of kids had parents who would never take them to the toy or hobby stores but of course would take them to the grocery store since they had to go there anyway. And the desire for having a train set, any train set, well...
Stuff like the M.A.S.H. set would appeal to some fans of the show and to people who enjoy army toys in general. The Transformers set would of course appeal to fans of Transformers, even fitting in with that line via its transformable cars and the extra gadgetry.
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 5:37:59 PM
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quote: quote: quote:
Plus NW never did a loco like that
It was a GP 9 originally
Real one is in a museum
Originally posted by microbusss - January 14 2016 : 11:00:08 AM
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It's still the most believable loco of everything posted! I will never understand the attraction of these fantasy sets. An Eckard Drug Geep? Really?
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â January 14 2016Â :Â 12:42:10 PM
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To some people, a billboard loco isn't that much of a stretch from a billboard freight car. For some people, there'd be nostalgia appeal stemming from memories of seeing the sets when they accompanied their parents to the store as children or even owning the sets when they were children. And some people just love cheese. As for what would have been the appeal when they were on store shelves, well... Remember that a lot of kids are less picky, and a lot of kids had parents who would never take them to the toy or hobby stores but of course would take them to the grocery store since they had to go there anyway. And the desire for having a train set, any train set, well...
Stuff like the M.A.S.H. set would appeal to some fans of the show and to people who enjoy army toys in general. The Transformers set would of course appeal to fans of Transformers, even fitting in with that line via its transformable cars and the extra gadgetry.
Originally posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman - January 14 2016 : 1:42:18 PM
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Zelda - I do risk being hypocritical on this issue, especially when it drives me up the wall when I see posts where people will state something like "no serious modeler would do this or that." (whatever this or that may be). But I did throw my opinion out there, so I will try to explain.
To clarify, when I see a train set offered - I'm looking for its relationship to real trains, in some small way. Some way to buy into the illusion that you're running a real train, only in smaller scale. And so when I see the Eckard Drug Store train, I'm wondering...how can I find a way to support the notion that Eckard Drugs now runs a short line with its own locomotives and caboose? I can't make up a reason. So to me it just seems silly. And I do like a lot of the billboard cars - even if there is not a specific prototype, they are in the "might have been" category. Not a big stretch to imagine them in existence.
Trains like the Bicentennial Sets...yes, I can sort of make up a reason for them to exist. Railroads did in fact have special trains. Maybe not exactly like these, but kinda sorta.
Anyway, not trying to upset anyone who collects these sets. Just another perspective. Carry on...
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 6:28:16 PM
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Those are some pretty cool sets, Island Trains. I have no
idea what their market value is, but I'm certain I've never seen the likes of them.
Very nifty.
I would hazard a guess that the motors in the locomotives are
cheap as garbage, excepting the Athearn piece, from experience.
But the graphics are really unique. Nice finds, let us know if
you bought them and better, yet, what they look like on your layout.
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 6:50:15 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. One guy is selling all these sets. His prices average from $120- $200 each. I kind of like the mash set but at $200.. and I'd want to run it! He also has the A-Team, GI Joe, Snap on Tools set and Armed Forces set:
Todd
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 9:10:20 PM
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On of my Marx sets. 9940 sears set with Erie flat car with boat load.
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 9:59:16 PM
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quote: [quote]
Plus NW never did a loco like that
It was a GP 9 originally
Real one is in a museum
Originally posted by microbusss - January 14 2016 : 11:00:08 AM
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It's still the most believable loco of everything posted! I will never understand the attraction of these fantasy sets. An Eckard Drug Geep? Really?
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â January 14 2016Â :Â 12:42:10 PM
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I have to say I feel the same as Jerry here on these sets.. They just don't interest me at all... But they are neat sets for those who like them. My nephew has the John Deere and he thinks it's really cool... Guess we all can't like the same things... 
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 10:19:57 PM
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quote:
Zelda - I do risk being hypocritical on this issue, especially when it drives me up the wall when I see posts where people will state something like "no serious modeler would do this or that." (whatever this or that may be). But I did throw my opinion out there, so I will try to explain.
To clarify, when I see a train set offered - I'm looking for its relationship to real trains, in some small way. Some way to buy into the illusion that you're running a real train, only in smaller scale. And so when I see the Eckard Drug Store train, I'm wondering...how can I find a way to support the notion that Eckard Drugs now runs a short line with its own locomotives and caboose? I can't make up a reason. So to me it just seems silly. And I do like a lot of the billboard cars - even if there is not a specific prototype, they are in the "might have been" category. Not a big stretch to imagine them in existence.
Trains like the Bicentennial Sets...yes, I can sort of make up a reason for them to exist. Railroads did in fact have special trains. Maybe not exactly like these, but kinda sorta.
Anyway, not trying to upset anyone who collects these sets. Just another perspective. Carry on...
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â January 14 2016Â :Â 5:37:59 PM
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Yeah, that is a bit hard to imagine for me too, though it does make me laugh. I'll admit that even to kids, store-branded trains likely didn't have anything near universal appeal. But that's where the whole "Sold someplace the parents shop at anyway" part comes in, teaming up with "Better than no train set at all" XD
...Although, you could try to justify it with "The railroad had to sell ad space on some locos and now they're stuck with it" :P
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Posted - January 14 2016 : 10:20:46 PM
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quote:And so when I see the Eckard Drug Store train, I'm wondering...how can I find a way to support the notion that Eckard Drugs now runs a short line with its own locomotives and caboose? I can't make up a reason.
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â January 14 2016Â :Â 5:37:59 PM
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I know it's a long stretch, but the Bowden Railway Company in western Georgia was a 12 mile short-line railroad connecting Roop's Grocery Store in Bowden, GA with the Central of Georgia at Bowden Jct. Of course its only rolling stock was a doodlebug built on the chassis of a small truck. It occasionally borrowed a locomotive from the Central of GA to move whole carloads, but it did not have a locomotive or caboose of its own. So, there's almost a prototype for everything. 
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Posted - January 15 2016 : 12:48:07 PM
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I likes the fantasy stuffs too & do want some of these sets
but here is what the REAL Bicentennial unit looked like
AHM dummy unit
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Posted - January 15 2016 : 8:44:29 PM
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| I sent you a private message microbusss
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Posted - January 17 2016 : 07:29:13 AM
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My new Marx set Sears 9942. New Haven 0-4-0t with ugly tractor trailer.
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Posted - January 17 2016 : 1:27:23 PM
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"His prices average from $120- $200 each." As Frank
Fritz would say, I love it, but not at $200.
No new SOTW's this week. Come on guys, I'm dying
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