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 Posted - November 19 2015 : 8:06:54 PM
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The film w Gene Wilder just ended on Movies Network
Something I always wondered
What train used a Foot Pedal as a throtle?
Or was this Plot Convienent?
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Posted - November 19 2015 : 10:45:44 PM
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quote:What train used a Foot Pedal as a throtle?
Originally posted by thesiding - November 19 2015 : 8:06:54 PM
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There's a prototype for everything. 
This old Brookville locomotive has a throttle that can be controlled with a hand lever or a foot pedal:
You sit on the seat with your head out the window, your right hand on the clutch, your right foot on the pedal, your left foot holding the reversing lever from jumping out of gear, and your left hand on the brake lever. Easy as 1,2,3 ... 4. 
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Posted - November 19 2015 : 11:32:50 PM
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YEAH BUT the loco in the film was ALOT bigger and a F type
Also did they not use Canadian RR pieces?
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Posted - November 20 2015 : 06:51:01 AM
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Ahhh. Well maybe the other is bigger, but the smaller, Brookville, it got character.
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Posted - November 20 2015 : 08:16:48 AM
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quote: the loco in the film was ALOT bigger and a F type
Originally posted by thesiding - November 19 2015 : 11:32:50 PM
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They definitely used artistic license, then.
F's have a lever on a control stand to the left of the engineer.
Hollywood seldom gets railroading right. 
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Posted - November 20 2015 : 10:14:11 AM
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Exactly! Is that critter powered by Farmall? I recognize the hood and grille
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Posted - November 20 2015 : 10:26:51 AM
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quote:Exactly! Is that critter powered by Farmall? I recognize the hood and grille
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - November 20 2015 : 10:14:11 AM |
The engine is by International which is, of course, the same company as Farmall. I'm not sure what the hood is from. It may well have been used on many machines.
I think the engine was used in road graders and stationary applications. It's an interesting one because it starts and warms up as a gasoline engine then runs as a diesel. The cylinder heads have a sort of shutter in them that reduces the volume above the piston and therefore raises the compression when it's shut so there's enough for diesel ignition. The spark plugs are above that shutter for when it runs as a gasoline engine.
In the cab, there's a handle that you pull to open the shutters and switch to gasoline. Pushing it closes the shutters and switches to diesel fuel.
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Posted - November 20 2015 : 10:44:13 AM
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Hence why I asked the question for I also know the throttle is NOT on the floor
Anyone familiar with The Max Fleischer Superman Cartoons?
The third one is called The Billion Dolar Limited in which a Gold Boulion shipment is the target of bad guys
At on point the crooks blow up a bridge to stop the train BUT Superman picks up the 4-8-4 Northern and it's eight passenger cars seemingly as it were one piece
I would get into fights with (non railroaders) about that scene for it is impossible etc But until I was able to veiw the video regularly I always assumed it was a streamlined thing like the Flyinng Yankee or The M 10,000
It's not
Back in the ninties I met the animator who worked on the cartoon Myron Waldman and he claimed they studied railroad practices at the time to ensure accuracy
At any rate it's a great short film to watch
And slight tancsnt Anyone know what the toy trains wer in the Fleischer film Play it Safe?
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Posted - November 20 2015 : 10:44:26 AM
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That's interesting! I posted the photo in a few groups. Some are speculating a TD-16 dozer.
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Posted - November 20 2015 : 12:37:26 PM
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quote:
Also did they not use Canadian RR pieces?
Originally posted by thesiding - November 19 2015 : 11:32:50 PM
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YES! all of it was CP Rail equipment!
If you watch the yard scene near the end you can sees a CP Rail switcher
Also when the guy burns the paper you can see a railtruck with cameras on it in the windows of the station
I DO wanna do the train in HO scale someday
Even someday get the remaining real loco & redo it in Silver Streak paint
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Posted - August 27 2016 : 2:19:18 PM
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quote:The film w Gene Wilder just ended on Movies Network
Something I always wondered
What train used a Foot Pedal as a throtle?
Or was this Plot Convienent?
Originally posted by thesiding - November 19 2015 : 8:06:54 PM
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The foot pedal seen in the cab of the CP FP7 in the movie "Silver Streak" was a "Dead Man Pedal", an early diesel locomotive safety feature, not a throttle. The "Dead Man Pedal" was the first version of a human fail safe system, the engineer had to keep the pedal pressed continuously as long as the locomotive was moving. If, for what ever reason, the engineer removed his foot from the pedal, the traction motors would cut out and the train would stop.
Dead Man pedals were phased out in the 1980's in favor of "Alerters", a time interval system that operates much like a snooze button on a typical alarm clock. The Alerter forces the engineer to acknowledge a visual and audible alarm every minute or so whenever the locomotive is in motion.
Unlike Dead Man Pedals which can be defeated by placing a heavy weight to keep it pressed (just like in the movie), Alerters only need occasional attention and are much harder to disable by the engineer.
On a side note, the film shot in the cab of the locomotive in "Silver Streak" was reversed providing a mirror image of what the cab really looks like. In the movie the control stand is shown on the left hand side of the cab when in reality it should be on the right hand side.
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