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Posted - November 21 2013 : 1:14:19 PM
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All broken couplers removed no problems. Now I just need to find some horn hook couplers to replace the broken ones. Any ideas? I'm thinking just buying some old rolling stock for parts and use those couplers?
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 2:05:42 PM
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oh darn it! Ask EM-1 for some before he sends me a bunch! Tell him I willing to share with you
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 2:27:16 PM
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would send you loads but postage outeighs the favour ken
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 2:42:01 PM
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Thanks guys..
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 2:56:03 PM
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microbusss
I can't PM anyone until I have ten posts.
I tried to contact EM-1 the site would't let me.
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 2:57:45 PM
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I can pay for postage..
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 7:05:48 PM
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Heck with it, I have a bin of 'em to get rid of. What exactly kind of horn-hooks do you need? I'd be happy to mail you a couple pairs if postage is an issue for anyone.
And it's advisable to get those 10 posts, most trades are done by PM (so everyone doesn't read your address and stuff).
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Posted - November 22 2013 : 10:44:33 AM
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Thanks, PRR PM me and I'll hit ya back. What kind of horn and hook couples are there for and early 70's late 60's F9S Diesel?
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Posted - November 22 2013 : 4:49:13 PM
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They should look something like this:

There's a LOT of little variations on couplers like this from various manufacturers... Most with the basic shape shown above *should* fit a Tyco.
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Posted - November 22 2013 : 6:10:25 PM
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Thanks DaCheez
Thats the couplers I have!
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Edited by - RioGrandeF9A on November 22 2013 6:12:57 PM
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Posted - November 22 2013 : 7:31:29 PM
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don't forget There are some that use a longer coupler or a WIDER hole  But that is the most common coupler
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Posted - November 22 2013 : 10:14:08 PM
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quote:don't forget There are some that use a longer coupler or a WIDER hole |
Good examples of the ones that won't fit a Tyco! Except of course for the GG1...those were much longer.
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Posted - November 24 2013 : 09:14:49 AM
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Model Power couplers on the carded blister pack with four couplers runs about $4.99 at the local hobby shop. They are the same as the Tyco horn hooks.
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Posted - December 06 2013 : 07:41:22 AM
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quote:oh darn it! Ask EM-1 for some before he sends me a bunch! Tell him I willing to share with you 
Originally posted by microbusss - November 21 2013 : 2:05:42 PM
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I can probably give you the ones off of my W&A passenger cars, if they will work. I also have some from some Bachmann and AHM cars, as well. I want to keep some to try making magnetic X2F's as an experiment for S scale. These aren't bad couplers, and work well. Uncouplers are easy to make with fine piano wire. I am working with magnetic uncoupling for HO, and will post the results, with photos, if possible.
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Posted - December 06 2013 : 07:43:29 AM
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quote:microbusss
I can't PM anyone until I have ten posts.
I tried to contact EM-1 the site would't let me.
Originally posted by RioGrandeF9AÂ -Â November 21 2013Â :Â 2:56:03 PM
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Same here. The site says I can't PM until I have sent ten PM's but won't let me send them to qualify. any answers?
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Posted - December 07 2013 : 3:07:17 PM
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I have no idea Bob but I keep posting and see what happens
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Posted - December 07 2013 : 3:14:47 PM
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I've been using the couplers pictured above that DaCheez pictured. They work ok. The arm coming off the back of the coupler where the hole is I've clipped off and it fit pretty well and has worked. I have no idea why that arm is there but when I clipped it of it fit.
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Posted - December 07 2013 : 4:29:25 PM
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The arm... you mean the plastic tail spring? If you cut that off, the coupler isn't going to have any spring action.
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Posted - December 08 2013 : 7:00:44 PM
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You probably have one of the early Red Box units with the smaller coupler pockets. The coupler that fits those engines is the same as the one I pictured above, but with the tail cut off...but it sounds like you already figured that out! Those coupler pockets had a microscopic piece of wire wrapped around the rivet. One end of the wire touched the outer side of the pocket, the other end was bent upwards to press on the coupler giving it the springy-ness. There are various ways to give the coupler it's springy action, it just takes some creativity and patience...
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Posted - December 09 2013 : 12:06:23 AM
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I didn't know older Tyco didn't use plastic springs, but most manufacturers had some kind of separate spring back then. I have a box of those coupler hair springs made by Perfect... they ought to fit Tyco coupler boxes.
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Posted - December 09 2013 : 01:12:52 AM
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Neither did I until I had to change one...and what a pain they are! Are these hair springs you speak of still made today or is it old stock you have?
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Posted - December 09 2013 : 9:07:42 PM
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Cheez, they are very old stock. I pulled them out of a junk box for pennies. And yes, they are a nuisance to work with. I wonder who first came up with the idea of an integrated plastic spring.
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Posted - December 11 2013 : 6:48:47 PM
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Thanks Gents and yes I have the older Red Box Tycos and cutting that arm of has worked fine.
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Posted - December 14 2013 : 12:51:27 AM
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quote:I wonder who first came up with the idea of an integrated plastic sprin |
A GENIUS! ....or a frustrated HO repairman.
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Posted - December 14 2013 : 01:08:42 AM
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It had to be a significant savings to the manufacturers in terms of manufacturing, inventory, and labor.
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