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 Posted - November 01 2013 : 2:01:47 PM
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its not one for me but i love the detail,fireless 0-6-0 ken
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Posted - November 01 2013 : 3:05:27 PM
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I like the Fireless cookers too, but this one Ken, takes the cake. LOVE all the external piping and such....
Crazy part? One of those would be really EASY to build! 
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Posted - November 01 2013 : 4:36:07 PM
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That is a really cool model. I've never seen a prototype like that. Interesting that they didn't bother with a smokebox or stack, just vertical exhaust pipes. I wonder if that made the exhaust louder.
Here's a more typical fireless 0-4-0 that was used at the Texaco Refinery in Bayonne, NJ. It was donated to the Whippany RR Museum 5 years ago.
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Posted - November 01 2013 : 11:19:12 PM
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LOVE IT!! I seriously want a fireless cooker in HO bit it's so hard to find one and they certainly aren't cheap......
I buy, repair, and collect
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Posted - November 01 2013 : 11:31:52 PM
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| looks like something that the Steam Punk enthusists would make
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Posted - November 02 2013 : 01:04:34 AM
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I don't understand why ANYONE ever bothered with a smokebox (what smoke?) and stack on one of these. The reason for expelling the spent steam through the smokebox is to burn the fuel more efficiently by increasing the draft in the firebox, which these locos don't have.
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Posted - November 02 2013 : 02:41:21 AM
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Hmmmm.
Glenn your right tho! It was a matter of using what was known to make them work....But the smokebox theory isn't needed in one of these puppies BUT...........they look to be easily made......From existing parts....of course!
I'll have to see what all goodies I have for such....Question is, was the "boiler" used to hold just hot air (steam) OR hot water, to collect "steam" off of it? I ask as I'm not sure how well these little guys would work with just hot air in them but full of water like a tank would have the main use off the top of the water creating steam in the highest area of the "boiler" or tank as seen.....
Interesting little critter of the steam sort, to say the least! (AND C&O had a couple of them too!)
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Posted - November 02 2013 : 08:47:50 AM
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quote:Hmmmm.
Question is, was the "boiler" used to hold just hot air (steam) OR hot water, to collect "steam" off of it? Originally posted by EM-1Â -Â November 02 2013Â :Â 02:41:21 AM
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Fireless cookers were filled with superheated water from a stationary boiler. As steam was used, the boiler pressure would drop causing more of the water to flash into steam.
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 09:55:30 AM
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I just saw the original engine in the thread listed on eBay for about $275, U.S. dollars.
Randy
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 10:21:50 AM
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another one. - Erich
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 12:17:54 PM
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Why fire less locomotive? It usually has an insulated pressure storage tank where the hot water is stored. As the steam is used off of the top, the hot water has room to make more steam. The water is loaded from a stationary boiler. Sometime these industrial switchers were used because local boilers were already there. Sometime for safety reason such as use in an oil refinery.
It seems to me that combining a modified tank car tank with a standard 0-4-0 or 0-6-0 chassis would be a good way to start a custom project. A welded tank could simulate an insulated tank for the engine.
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 12:29:09 PM
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my favourite cooker is this one ken
pennsy power and light at the RR Museum of PA
her little sister
interior of a cooker
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 12:50:05 PM
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for the technically minded people,ken
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 12:59:03 PM
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quote:interior of a cooker
Originally posted by catfordken - November 13 2013 : 12:29:09 PM
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This is kind of odd. The cylinders appear to have cooling fins on them. A cylinder should be insulated, not cooled. The steam coming into the cylinder would want to condense into water, which does not compress, and endanger the cylinder heads if it has no good way to drain off. I wonder why they did that.
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 1:07:39 PM
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you can see working ones here ken
http://www.ovguide.com/fireless-locomotive-9202a8c04000641f80000000008e2e3c
not all of the fireless cookers worked on steam,so though not as good worked on compressed air
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Posted - November 13 2013 : 6:39:23 PM
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just watched the videos. the ones from cuba give a whole new meaning to hump yard and rock and roll. wonder how many times they have rolled over on their side? surprising the government even allows filming, especially the one showing daily life in havana in 2013. You got to love all those old cars.
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Posted - July 24 2021 : 02:11:58 AM
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The yellow 0-4-0T is a compressed air locomotive as used in mines, not steam powered
http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/airloco/airloco.htm
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Posted - July 24 2021 : 02:33:07 AM
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BINGO !
"Note the fins on the cylinder assembly, intended to absorb heat from the environment and reduce the cooling of the air when it expanded"
Of course!
Although Porter dominated this market, the fins may mean this is a Baldwin
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Posted - July 24 2021 : 02:45:07 AM
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SCVR66
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"LOVE IT!! I seriously want a fireless cooker in HO bit it's so hard to find one and they certainly aren't cheap......"
How about this? It fits on a Bachman Porter Drive and costs $45
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154305515046?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=154305515046&targetid=4581183927179149&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=418233787&mkgroupid=1241348861725295&rlsatarget=pla-4581183927179149&abcId=9300542&merchantid=51291&msclkid=c9170c9b23b0140972bf6c609751a98e
Go to EBAY and type "HO Fireless Locomotive"
Fireless cookers were used around explosives plants, petroleum refineries where the product (textiles and food products) might be contaminated by smoke and where considerable steam was available as a byproduct of the operation, such as power plants, switching cars of coal and ash
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Posted - July 28 2021 : 12:28:03 AM
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I've drooled on that for years. I'd like to build an entire shelf switching
layout around this piece. Problem is 45 clams isn't so hard to put down,
but try to find a Bachmann Porter 0-6-0- and then I am very, very
gunshy about Bachmann products due to split gears, or worse, that
dreadful plastic middle axle thing they foisted on the unsuspecting
public for years.
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