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 Posted - October 17 2013 : 2:14:24 PM
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So I thought I would throw this little tutorial in here for the new guy's that are just getting in the hobby,Often we get caught up in the moment and when placing structures on the layout we, as I did sometimes got frustrated with how everything looked,you know,how it didn't jell,it just didn't look correct,time and time were placing building's till it looks somewhat reasonable,then after a couple of day's just go back and start over again cause it doesn't suite you.
The key to any thing your going to do is to plan,and plan ahead,you have the thought,but what do you do with it......PUT IT DOWN ON PAPER....make yourself a diagram and modify it,experiment,get to know the lay of your land and what can fit on it,such as building's,sidewalk's,street's,landscaping,tree's,all the little detail's that make the scene.
Here's what I am talking about
In the following photo's you will see pencil mark's for sidewalk's,and street's,and will have the building's placed just how I want them on this piece of real estate.
Also you will see a makeshift quicky template for sidewalk's
In earlier post I used peel and stick tile for sidewalk's,though some of this can be pricey,in this section I opted to go with matt board,which you can pick up at craft store's such as hobby lobby,and cheap I might add a bundle of 12 x 12 boards 25 to 30 in a pack ran me about 5 buck's and change,and the possibilities are endless with this substrate.
Ok so here we go follow me along as I create this little town scene,Oh by the way the area we are working on is 5' x 28"
Picture # 1 street's and sidewalk marker's or marking's
though done in pencil it gives me a reference point.
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another angle for the street's and sidewalk's
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Ok you get the idea.
Now for building placement,again I had the thought of what I wanted,but before putting anything down on the bench I PUT IT ON PAPER.
So here are a couple of shot's of the building placement.
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Ok now you get the idea...I hope..
here's a shot of the quick sidewalk template out of matt board.
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And there you have it,Setting the Scene.
next will get some paint down,and install all the sidewalk's.
Look I am by know mean's a Di'vinci,or a Michael Angelo,the main thing to remember this is a hobby,have fun.RELAX...It's your world....
Ok see you all on the next installment,,STREET'S AND SIDEWALK'S
Mike
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Edited by - yellowiron on October 19 2013 3:46:59 PM
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 2:47:56 PM
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yeek thats a big church for HO 
How about a trolley line in the street?
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 3:43:56 PM
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quote:yeek thats a big church for HO
How about a trolley line in the street?
Originally posted by microbusss - October 17 2013 : 2:47:56 PM
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Na thats not that big of a church,guess my old altar boy day's are showin....
As far as a trolley line,would like to,but it's not in the card's.
Thanks for looking..
Mike
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 5:16:29 PM
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quote:yeek thats a big church for HO
How about a trolley line in the street?
Originally posted by microbusss - October 17 2013 : 2:47:56 PM
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Funny I was just thinking the HO scale churches I have are incredibly small-sized - really to the point that I think better suited to N scale. Churches, especially in towns, are usually large structures.
Can you give any info on your church (who made it/did you build from kit/etc)?? Looks impressive.
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 5:27:07 PM
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quote: quote:yeek thats a big church for HO
How about a trolley line in the street?
Originally posted by microbusss - October 17 2013 : 2:47:56 PM
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Funny I was just thinking the HO scale churches I have are incredibly small-sized - really to the point that I think better suited to N scale. Churches, especially in towns, are usually large structures.
Can you give any info on your church (who made it/did you build from kit/etc)?? Looks impressive.
The kit was made by Kibri,Kit # 405-9760 it measures 12 1/4 x 7 1/2 x 14 1/8
price back in 2009 was $137.99
Mike
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â October 17 2013Â :Â 5:16:29 PM
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 7:37:30 PM
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I hate to bring this up and be a trouble maker, but I think the sooner a potentially inconvenient question comes up, the less disruptive it is to fix if need be.
Aren't steeples usually at the same end as the big main entrance doors?
Carpe Manana!
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 8:52:27 PM
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Nice tutorial so far. Putting it on paper is excellent advice. I often forget to follow that myself. When I first started my layout back in late June I had several concept sketches, a track plan, and a whole list of things that needed doing. The list ended with "build scenery". I wiped all the other items off the list in about two months. I had intended to refine the list but never did, and as a result my progress has been slow. Hopefully I can get back to that soon. 
Anyway, I look forward to seeing your progress! 
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 10:08:22 PM
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quote:I hate to bring this up and be a trouble maker, but I think the sooner a potentially inconvenient question comes up, the less disruptive it is to fix if need be.
Aren't steeples usually at the same end as the big main entrance doors?
Originally posted by scsshaggy - October 17 2013 : 7:37:30 PM
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Not necessarily, churches are as different as people. I'm not a scholar on the subject enough to explain, but I've seen many variations. Some large Catholic churches I have been to have had the steeple in the rear over the altar, some like this one have two that are offset...and yes as you say some are up front by the entrance doors. probably has a lot to do with the customs and traditions of the particular faith as well.
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - October 17 2013 : 11:09:42 PM
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quote: quote:I hate to bring this up and be a trouble maker, but I think the sooner a potentially inconvenient question comes up, the less disruptive it is to fix if need be.
Aren't steeples usually at the same end as the big main entrance doors?
Originally posted by scsshaggy - October 17 2013 : 7:37:30 PM
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Not necessarily, churches are as different as people. I'm not a scholar on the subject enough to explain, but I've seen many variations. Some large Catholic churches I have been to have had the steeple in the rear over the altar, some like this one have two that are offset...and yes as you say some are up front by the entrance doors. probably has a lot to do with the customs and traditions of the particular faith as well.
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â October 17 2013Â :Â 10:08:22 PM
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Great analogy Jerry,you are correctomundo on styles,congregation's,and tradition's of the brethren of a particular denomination.
Don,the one that you have to look at is who mfg. this particular kit...Kibri,so European architecture is the choice for the modeling community over there,but in all honest I bought this kit cause it reminded me of my old church as a kid growing up,The Assumption of the Blessed Virgin.it was a huge church as is the model I built for my layout..
Mike
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Posted - October 19 2013 : 1:33:46 PM
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Street's and Sidewalk's
Ok here we go with the next installment of SETTING THE SCENE.
STREET'S AND SIDEWALK'S
Here is the material's list if you want to try this at home.
1.Ruler
2. A good pair of utility scissor's
3. Pen
4.1 can of primer spray paint {gray}
5. 1 can of flat white
6. 1 can of flat black
The paint can be bought at wally world for less then a buck.
7. Matt Board
8. 1 roll of painters tape.
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You have laid out where you want to place your sidewalk's
With a ruler mark the area,and lay down painter's tape so you have a guide as to where you want to place the sidewalk.
After that,you can paint the street's,as you can see here the street was painted and the tape removed,now I have a guide to where I want my sidewalk's placed.
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For the modeling of sidewalk's I oppted to use Matt Board
Next measure and cut your sidewalk to the dimension that you want,after cutting apply lite coats of the primer and flat white paint's and install after the section's have dried with Tacky Glue.
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And there you have it,A very simple and frugal way to do sidewalk's and street.
All toll I figured I spent on this section around $3.00,when I say section,I mean the entire area that I am working on.
The next time we meet were going to do landscaping,we got to give those home's a nice area
to sit in.
Thanks for following.
Mike
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Posted - October 19 2013 : 5:57:17 PM
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So what ya usin' for the sidewalks? The sheet I mean....Pretty large amount of sheet, which is nice to have when ya need it, large sheets of materials for such!
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Posted - October 19 2013 : 8:30:34 PM
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Hey John:
What I am using there is 12 x 12 pieces of matt board,cut to my spec's that I need.
I bought a couple of packs of them at hobby lobby for around 5 bucks or so each,there were
apx.30 pieces in each pack..
Hope this helps.
Mike
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Posted - October 19 2013 : 9:35:50 PM
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 Im using streets made by Tyco 
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Posted - October 19 2013 : 11:43:32 PM
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Mike,
Mat board? like card board? I'm unaware of this material or just drawing a blank on it....but it is like card board then? Or well not card board, but "Oaktag", or "chipboard"????
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Posted - October 20 2013 : 11:05:49 AM
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John:
Matt board,lets see abouth the easiest way to describe it is as follow's
Yes it is like cardboard but not really.
Did you ever go to a craft store like Michael's,hobby lobby.and look in the section where they do custom framing?
here ya go this will give you the idea of what im talking about.
Sorry if there was some confusion on my part.
Mike
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Posted - October 21 2013 : 12:12:47 AM
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Picture "mat" board that has like a foam interior, with cardboard outer coverings. laminations, when cut on an angle, it shows the interior for that sort of effect....Hold paint well? Yes? Interesting!!!! And it looks as tho it takes glue well and placement on the layout as well!
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