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 Posted - July 14 2013 : 02:06:15 AM
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Has anyone else noticed two different style corner steps on Tyco's operating hoppers? Anyone know when or why?
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Posted - July 14 2013 : 02:27:46 AM
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Glenn,
Would that happen to be "that" corner only? OR is the different stirrups on all 4 corners?
I don't know, as I have never noticed that before, BUT, a question, the 2 cars pictured, one mantua one TYCO? AND do they have the same road number?
Interesting find, good eye for detail you got!
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Posted - July 14 2013 : 04:33:50 AM
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The one on the right is no doubt a later revision to reinforce the stirrups.
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Posted - July 14 2013 : 06:10:10 AM
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Nelson,
Not a bad thought on that, but I would have thought out on the main corner would have been a better place.....But better somewhere then not at all!
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Posted - July 14 2013 : 08:21:38 AM
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| As a student of GIC, if you look on his web site, he first brought that up a while ago with his Monon cement hopper. That is when I noticed not only was it the cement hopper but all the hoppers.
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Posted - July 14 2013 : 10:01:18 PM
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John - I thought all the operating hoppers were Tyco. I know the truck design changed, but they could have been swapped around, so I don't assume the ones with older trucks are the older hoppers. It's all four corners and the cars have the same road number.
Nelson, Phillip - From my observations, the gusset version is newer, since I've seen it only on the Virginian and DT&I cars.
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Posted - July 14 2013 : 10:59:53 PM
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Gmoney - never noticed until you brought to my attention - now i will have to see how many i have of these like this since i own quite a few
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Posted - July 15 2013 : 01:05:45 AM
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Glenn,
I thought these hoppers were also made by Mantua? Yes, no?
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Posted - July 15 2013 : 02:23:38 AM
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quote:Glenn,
I thought these hoppers were also made by Mantua? Yes, no?
Originally posted by EM-1Â -Â July 15 2013Â :Â 01:05:45 AM
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John,
After doing a tiny bit of research, my conclusion is that these cars were sold as kits under the Mantua name, and RTR under the Tyco name. I have no idea how to tell them apart, though. I'll have to check to be sure, but I don't think they have any identifying marks on them.
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Posted - July 15 2013 : 02:35:36 AM
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As I thought, there are very few things I have found that Mantua didn't do that TYCO did, whether kit form or RTR.....
I'll have to look at those, I have to see if they have any markings on them as well!
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Posted - July 15 2013 : 07:09:13 AM
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Tyco/Mantua History
www.tcawestern.org/tyco.htm
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Posted - July 26 2013 : 07:11:36 AM
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John, most of my hopper collection is in storage, but I checked the few pieces I have handy, and found markings only on the undersides of a couple of roofs; one said "Mantua" and the other said "Tyco." That really isn't any help with identifying the two Virginian hoppers though!
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Posted - August 12 2013 : 4:12:19 PM
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The gussets were added in the early 70's. The only roadnames I know to have both versions, are the ones Tyco consistently sold from the late 60's through the early 70's. So, you won't find a gussetted C&O, Reading, Navy, Brachs, or other names that were dropped early. Nor will you find a square DT&I as that was only made in the 80's.
The Virginian, Monon, and Holly can be found in either. I don't recall for sure if B&M and Spreckel's may be, but they were produced close to the right timeframe.
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Posted - February 20 2014 : 5:25:50 PM
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quote:Has anyone else noticed two different style corner steps on Tyco's operating hoppers? Anyone know when or why?
Originally posted by gmoney - July 14 2013 : 02:06:15 AM
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I have the one on the left with the box which I got for $7 a couple of years ago.
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