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I doubt many have ever seen a 2 foot long HO scale engine house or shop building. A least not a 2 stall. Well it started by My Seybold Locomotive Works shop where I housed my 3 most favorite engines of my collection, getting to cramped to get any work done on my other private engines associated with it and NOT the Santa Clarita Valley Railroad which is my HO tourist railway. So I browsed ModelTrainStuff.coms cite looking for a new possible shop. I found one that caught my eye. A walthers Fire Department Repair Shop kit. Of course I knew right off it was built for HO scale trucks and no HO steam locomotives. Well I knew I could simply expand the doorways to make it work. So about 2 weeks ago I actually had my go to train store order it for me out of the Walthers catalog being they do that and it arrived 2 days ago. I opened it up and saw 2 sheets of plastic the same size and thought oh they must go together being the instructions were awful and not helpful at all. Had my older brother come over to take a look and he said "That's the roof sheet." Immediately I went ohhh that makes sense but crap....that means this shop is no bigger then my older shop which was a Walthers Machine shop. I put track on the shop floor next to the actual track that goes through the shop to keep all my favorites In.
So I stood there for 5 minutes trying to figure out how to make a bigger shop. I wasn't gonna just deal with the smaller shop because that would have been a big waste of time and money. So I used a bench grinder to grind the roof sheet flat being it had a corner that was shortened to match the base and Zapped the base sheet and roof sheet together. Giving me a base of 24 inches and or 2 feet. I knew there wouldn't be enough left to finis hit but I went ahead and took the 2 side walls for the shop, flattened the ends being their diagonal so that it all fits together originally. See I flattened the side of the 2 walls so I could join them together for one huge long wall. With the windows and doors installed it worked great. Also did some major remachining to the front wall to allow HO engines to go in and out. Once that was done I installed that wall. Being the back wall didn't require any major work other then shortening it by a half inch it was installed first. The front wall I installed at night the same day I got the kit. Giving me 3 walls completed. So then I knew okay I had to order the same kit again just to make the last side wall and to make the roofs. I ordered the shop yesterday using my favorite train store again and it will be here within 2 weeks. There will not be a single wall or piece on this kit that hasn't been either redesigned or remachined.
there really was no headaches or stress building this kit regardless of me having to basically make it entirely my own. I have to add wood extensions on my layout just to accommodate this huge new shop but this means I can keep every single private HO engine of mine in one shop! Don't be afraid to ever make something your own or totally redesign something cause it's really worth it in the end. I will be sure to post a photo when the shop is all done soon. But still a 2 foot long shop in ho? Pretty crazy 
PS: I didn't expand the back door frame being there wont be track going through that. 2 doors on the front don't line up with the back door so the back door will be for visitors and die cast cars.
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Posted - June 09 2013 : 12:57:00 AM
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Hyde,
Nice kitbash! As for it tho, I have an almost 3 foot 2 stall engine house, that will be off 2 legs of my turntable. The building? It was built from 4 Revell 2 stall engine houses, with a section with a slightly lower, and different roof from the 4 Revell kits.
Its currently buried right now as I don't have that section of my layout built yet, and with my surgery is on hold for awhile, BUT, once I get to the footlocker I have my "engine terminal" stored in, I plan to get all the buildings out and get pictures as they truly are large in size, as the round house that is also to be built, is 12 stalls, of the large Walthers kits.......With 4 stalls extended to fit one Big Boy length steamer inside the roundhouse doors, closed, (BUT that's only 4 stalls to be made that "deep")
Is that the Walthers 2 stall, lengthened? You could have made the rear doors line up, you would merely need Walthers sheet brick, and cut out to fit, and then get the lines of center from the front doors followed to the rear and then cut out......(I know, I do this sort of modification to buildings all the time, more case then not, while I'm healing, right now!)
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Posted - June 09 2013 : 3:50:52 PM
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Wow, that is a loooong shop! Looks like it'll work perfectly, though. Sometimes it takes twice the materials to get one of what you really want. You're on your way....
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Posted - June 09 2013 : 4:03:32 PM
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Thanks John!! I've seen a lot of people combine 2 revel engine houses before like on eBay. I have one and I'll probably buy another to make it slightly bigger but not anymore then another shop added. Ya know with the second walthers kit on its way I could've just taken the front wall from that one and done some expanding and made it the backwall for the current big shop but I didn't want the tracks to go all the way through as the shop will sit on a corner of my layout after I add wood extensions of course. Hope you still recover cause we still got our deal working 
Thanks Jerry! No doubt it'll work out just fine when the other kit comes. That was the thing I wasn't going to settle for a shop the same size as the one as before. I knew I wouldn't stop till I got my dream shop, didn't think it'd be 2 feet long but ya know it adds to the dream
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Posted - June 09 2013 : 4:13:58 PM
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I think all of my S scale Flyer would fit in there. 
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Posted - June 20 2013 : 9:01:27 PM
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Haha! Well I already had to dramatically expand the door frames just to be able to handle my steam locomotives so If you want an S gauger to fit I do have 2 extra walls from the new kit, the front walla and back wall which have the door frames so..... But no I love this shop and I finished it the other day.
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Posted - June 20 2013 : 11:08:28 PM
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Hyde, I love the interior shot, but then I like all your track level three-quarter loco shots anyway!
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Posted - June 21 2013 : 03:36:27 AM
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Thanks Glenn!! I was kind of on the fence with deciding what photos to upload of the shop being I took many but I liked the interior shot as well. By the end of next week it'll be on the layout and jam packed full of my "privately owned" HO steamers and small diesel shop goats. And thanks for the compliment on the loco pictures!! 
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Posted - June 21 2013 : 4:42:19 PM
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How about posting an interior shot once you get it "stocked?"
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Posted - June 21 2013 : 5:36:39 PM
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quote:How about posting an interior shot once you get it "stocked?"
Originally posted by gmoney - June 21 2013 : 4:42:19 PM
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YEAH! I agree! I should mention this
Cut a couple pits in the interior & tracks are usually embedded in cement at shops
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Posted - June 21 2013 : 6:07:57 PM
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Sure thing! Should be on the layout and all connected and loaded up by this weekend. I am awaiting shipment of a new Canadian Pacific 4-6-2 I traded for that will be housed in this huge shop along with multiple other engines.
I've always wanted inspection pits and I am considering that! I've always dreamed of real working inspection pits on my layout so who knows
That is what the 4-6-2 looks like. So the line up is not set in stone till that arrives My planned line up is my custom SSW 4-4-2 and my David Lee Circus 2-8-0 #3 to be on one stall track. And on the other stall the 4-6-2, my custom built orange Varney 0-4-0T and my rare John Deere Roundhouse critter both behind the 4-6-2. Much like I did on my old Seybold Loco Works shop I will place track next to the live rail shop tracks to house even more engines in the shop while their not connected to the actual track that goes in and out. Pictures will explain it all later.
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Posted - June 22 2013 : 10:12:47 PM
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Well with the wood extensions made and installed the shop was installed, I nailed down the track in front of the shop, ballasted it, aligned the track inside the shop then glued that down, then moved engines in! Upon request full loaded photos of the new shop are below! Enjoy as much as I did....if possible
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Posted - June 22 2013 : 10:52:29 PM
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| DON'T glue the roof on
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Posted - June 22 2013 : 10:57:13 PM
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Never have on any engine house or shop related building and never will haha
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Posted - June 23 2013 : 09:54:40 AM
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| ok Why don't you put a handle on the roof BUT diguise it as a thing that goes on the roof?
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Posted - June 23 2013 : 5:23:13 PM
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Not a bad idea. I installed old wood ties I made inside of the sidewalls near the top to keep the roof level I can simply push the roof sheet either forward or back to be able to remove it.
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Posted - June 24 2013 : 12:37:14 AM
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Hyde, thanks for the three-quarter interior shot. With what looks like natural sunlight coming in the far end it reminds me of visiting the PA Railroad Museum on my honeymoon 18 years ago!
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Posted - June 24 2013 : 3:41:28 PM
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Not a problem! I always try to angle the camera to where I get the best intake of sunlight to where it makes for a good picture.
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 02:17:30 AM
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Wait till you guys get a load of what I been designing an working on......Lets just say one member around these parts has an idea....not yet seen BUT, it goes along the lines of these "type" of buildings........
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 2:49:05 PM
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Oh boy.....
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 5:35:09 PM
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Hyde,
Got a question! That track inside the building you pictured, the one closest to the side wall that has no outlet on the rear of the building, did you glue it in?
I ask as you shouldn't! You would need a place to add stuff like this:
Milling Machines
Metal Lathes....
Drill Presses...
Radial-Arm Drill Presses...
NOW, if you look, some are detail parts I bought, others (drill presses) have one bought part, the 2 "white" ones are made by my 2 hands, out of scrap plastic, I have collected up over the span of 20 years, hoping to find a use some day.....WELL, I found a use! I am using all my cut-offs to make these machines over and over again, as I got a railroad machine shop to fill.....THEN I have the Vulcan Machine Co. to also fill the interior, PLUS the larger machines that you will see, can be used as car loads!
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 7:00:34 PM
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I did not as that's not a permanent idea in the shop. Can I steal those machines off you? Cause believe me I want machines in the far right rear corner where the 3rd not attached track ends.
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Posted - June 25 2013 : 7:43:41 PM
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Hyde,
Good to hear! That's a place you need for stuff like that! BUT be sure to add in windows to be able to see them!
As for my machines, just the green machines, to buy them, from the place they came from is $60.00! Plus shipping! I got them at an auction that someone had bought them for the same uses! Sadly, I can't part with them! I need around 10 of each one for the machine shops, I have for on my layout with buildings with large windows!
The machines in white...... I made from scratch! ALL made from scrap pieces of plastic that I have saved for the last 20 years!
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 02:57:12 AM
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If you look at both sidewalls you will see multiple windows so we're good on that Dang! That's impressive that you made those!!
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 03:23:05 AM
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Hyde,
did you see the other machines I made? Theres a posting in the custom/kitbashing section on them! THOSE are impressive!
All I can say, is they aren't going to stay white, and those you see that are factory painted green ALSO aren't going to stay that same shade of green as I'm going to make them match.....
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 04:30:46 AM
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Hyde,
To give you an idea.....I've got to do something that looks like this:
A LOT of machines in that picture! I am working on a railroad version of whats seen here......
My next machine to build? a wheel lathe.....I'd actually LOVE to build at least 2 of them, but those are rather large in size!
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 1:46:00 PM
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yes I did! and very impressive to say the least!! Eventually I'd like to set up a couple machines.
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Posted - June 26 2013 : 4:07:25 PM
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John, I think you need to get molding. 
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Posted - June 27 2013 : 01:43:36 AM
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Your not kiddin' Nelson! LOL I have been thinking of that and leaving the hand levers and the knobs off the machines I build, to mold them as I do in fact have a need for a TON of them!
Needless to say, my model machine shop is nothing like that, in the picture of the real deal, BUT its probably 1/2 to 2/3rds that size! AND again, there are a few machines, I'm going to add, not seen in that picture......Which will take up some space, specially 2 Wheel lathes! One for freight cars, one for locomotives so.......
My square engine house, is 4 Revell 9 inch square ones from I think 1956.....The machine shop connects off one side of it, and the other side, has a compressor room to hold a tank of a good size to supply air to the engine house, and machine shop, and not 10 scale feet away, on the other outside wall across, will be the round house wanting air as well! *Shakes head* I just realized, I got my work cut out for me!
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Posted - July 05 2013 : 05:11:44 AM
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Hyde,
Here's the start of the engine house I was talking about....Its not completed as I forgot about the other section getting destroyed a few years ago...(I found some parts of it and got a rude reminder of it!)
Its 5 sections of the Revell 2 stall engine house put end to end....the 3 unmatching sections are the replacements of the broken one section, I had built. See, this was stored in 2 sections as its rather long! Then, once on the layout would be butted together 2 sections on one end, 3 ofn the other. WELL because I have to partially rebuild it, I'm going to also redesign it at the same time! The original machine shop I had planned, grew into a complete other building, AND in size!
Overall its longer then a yard stick!
And if I would build it with the original parts left from the damages that I got.... it be even longer!
See the section to the far right on the top side of the building in the picture? That WAS another section to the length! I have decided to make that into a "Cab Shop" to the engine house!
ENJOY!
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Posted - July 05 2013 : 05:25:19 AM
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Better explanation:
Makes better sense when ya have the technology to label it all!
So everyone knows, this building, the picture of, was taken on the living room floor after I finally got it all dug out......Its THAT big, and my shop is THAT much of a mess right now, I had no bench space to do this, OR floor space within the shops 4 walls! (Yeah, I got some cleaning to do!)
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Posted - July 05 2013 : 9:31:11 PM
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Sheeeesshhhhhh man that is one friggen huge set up going on there!! Love it!
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Posted - July 05 2013 : 9:33:51 PM
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Built, to handle Articulateds..............multiples of them!
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Posted - November 21 2013 : 11:09:34 AM
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holy Altoona Batman!
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