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Posted - April 29 2013 : 9:03:10 PM
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Growing up, we ended up with hand-me-down engines and rolling stock. The odd streamlined Mantua caboose, many of the Athearn cabooses (SP?). I always wanted some bay windows...so, when I found some Athearn kits, bought some. Then, having been an avid (rabid?) Model Railroader reader, seeing all the Varney stuff, and now with a bunch of Varney locos, I got a Varney bay window. Boy, are they different.
 Here's the Athearn.
 And the Varney.
 And the pair together. Dave
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Posted - April 29 2013 : 11:28:00 PM
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The Athern is the size of a 50ft boxcar!
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Posted - April 29 2013 : 11:40:45 PM
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What I like is the Gilbert version, I call it a "Bayola", as it has both cupola up top, and bay side windows. Apparently prototypical, but not many were made. Rarest HO model is the blue Wabash version, it brings high dollar on Ebay. I have both the red and yellow versions.
Jerry 
Actually, I have 2 red units, this the first one I ever got, I have a better one somewhere, but no pictures I can find at the moment. I want to finish stripping this one of the brown paint eventually and try to save it.
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Posted - April 29 2013 : 11:49:02 PM
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I have several Varneys - they only came in undec brown plastic, undec painted yellow, and painted orange Milwaukee Road. Working on getting a Milwaukee now out of an estate collection so I have one of each.
But I also have one that is factory decorated Kansas City Southern. It's not supposed to exist. It was a $2 junkbox find I put some trucks on later.
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Posted - April 29 2013 : 11:54:28 PM
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I've seen those. May even have one down in the boxes and boxes of stuff in the basement.
 I suppose there are more of these, too. Never gave them a second thought. This Flyer has a twist-in BIG bulb holder in the floor. Not bad shape at all. I think sometimes folks think I'm a good place to give stuff to. One guy gave me a Version Two Mantua Mikado, and then 3/4 of a Version Three (no mains or side rods, lead or trail truck, cab) but everything else is there including tender (plastic), THEN he brings over a complete Santa Fe Version Three Mikado. Man. Once I get this Varney 2-8-0 finished, I'll do the Varney Super Mike, then I can almost put six Mikados on the point of a train. It's nuts. Dave
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Posted - April 30 2013 : 10:50:35 AM
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Ivrr325 The reason your KCS caboose is not founded in Greenberg's Varney book is it was an uncataloged item. The author (Dave Spanagel) only included cataloged items in the book. THe KCS caboose was made sometime after 1957 when the Kramer bothers own Varney. They also made the bay window caboose in Southern Pacific #1235, Union Pacific #25450, Central Pacific, Baltimore & Ohio #C2502 and Western Pacific. Is the number on your KCS caboose 386?
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Posted - April 30 2013 : 12:02:16 PM
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quote:I've seen those. May even have one down in the boxes and boxes of stuff in the basement.
 I suppose there are more of these, too. Never gave them a second thought. This Flyer has a twist-in BIG bulb holder in the floor. Not bad shape at all.
Dave
Originally posted by ScaleCraft - April 29 2013 : 11:54:28 PM
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That is a number 131 for Gilbert released a caboose with that number in 2 different roadnames, Reading as you see and Pennsylvania also.
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Posted - April 30 2013 : 12:14:01 PM
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Here is a Marx bay window. frank
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Posted - April 30 2013 : 1:31:40 PM
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Frank You are thinking of the Gilbert #506 caboose. It was made in Reading (1955) and Pennsylvania (1956 thru 1957). Gilbert #131 caboose was only made in Reading (1947 thru 1950).
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Posted - June 29 2013 : 10:56:44 PM
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Real life bay windows came in assorted lengths and profiles, did they not? Many were built by the RR's own shops and were unique between roads. I've always liked the Gilbert bayola. Having a variety of designs available adds interest to our collections. It also gives us the ability to have road specific designs as the generic models that were painted a rainbow of roads are often based on a single road's design.
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