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Do WE really need DST?? I think it is a waste we can live withuot adjusting to!! The acients didnt need it OK. I would like a vote on this please!!!
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Steve;

what in hell is a "DST"?

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Daylight Savings Time.
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Ben Franklin 1st proposed it back in the 1700s
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ok, so no context to trains whatsoever so thats why I was Huh!

My Answer is; who gives a flying Fadoo!

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The ancients didn't need it because they lived by solar time. They got up when the sun came up and went to bed when the sun went down. They automatically adjusted to having more daylight in summer than in winter. The modern world lives on standard time that doesn't allow for the change in the amount of daylight, UNLESS it springs forward and falls back. Incidentally Gareth, we have the US railroads to thank for creating standard time, so they could schedule their trains across this four-time-zone-wide country of ours! I'd say DST and railroading are intimately linked!

As for my vote, personally I would prefer DST all year round, to maximize the evening daylight hours year round.

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As one of my other hobbies is astronomy, I think DST is evil.

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Astronomically speaking, how is DST evil?
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I'm definitely pro DST. I love the longer daylight hours, but it's tough going off it in the fall.
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DST is all about coming home from work in the early summer, having dinner and still being able to mow the lawn in the cool of the early evening;
Its about listening to the ball game on the radio while relaxing on the front porch;
Its about watching the neighborhood kids as they ride their bikes past your house in the gentle
Light of late day;

The ancients couldnt do this stuff, but we can
- thanks to the railroads!

(Or am I describing some idyllic pseudo memory courtesy of the Twilight Zone?)

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I think we will find that "the Ancients" were pretty wise.
There is a tide of research heading this way indicating that blue spectrum light from artificial lighting at night is at the heart of hormone disruptions in our endocrinology system (body regulation) that are the cause of obesity, Clinical Depression and Breast Cancer among other things.

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Ron, I agree all that stuff is great; that's what I like about DST. My question is why change it in the the winter?
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quote:
I think we will find that "the Ancients" were pretty wise.

Originally posted by romcat - March 10 2013 :  12:44:16 AM



Yeah... aside from blood letting, knocking holes in your head to exorcise evil spirits, and human sacrifice they were bloody brilliant.

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Gmoney: here's the flip side of having standard time in the winter (as I remember my earlier life at the 45th north parallel (the latitude of Minneapolis)):

In winter, life is all about getting up to scurry about, doing the necessary things- work, shopping, snow shoveling while the light of day is available;

To enjoy the walk home from the school bus as the sun casts long shadows on the white/blue- hued snow, knowing that a warm house and a hot bowl of soup await you at the end of the journey;

To have the blanket of early night act as insulation to enable one to focus inside- to things that matter: family, cooking, cameraderie of friends, model railroading!

And the trade off is spring, when the end of winter and the longer days now have more meaning- and more time for trains!

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we in uk have lived with it for years,great for the farmers makes no real difference to me as i get up when i need to and go to bed when i am tired ken
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DST - good or evil?

Well, if we didn't live by and for our Technology, we really wouldn't NEED it, would we? But we live in an industrialized society, and by time clocks. Some of it was related to school children safety, don't want them standing on street corners in the dark. And it's nice to get home with some daylight left to do more stuff. Now, lets say that instead of DST, we make all companies and schools just simply adjust their HOOT - Hours Of Operating Time. During the Fall/Winter months, we make the schools and all businesses just open 1 hour LATER. No need to change the clocks at all! This does away with DST at this point. How hard would it be to just say " Tonight change your Hours Of Operating Time instead of changing the clock? Although all the door signs printed with the opening/closing times would have to be changed twice a year. But that could be overcome, maybe. Who gives a HOOT here, give a toot on your steam whistle! Or diesel horn...

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ok, so no context to trains whatsoever so thats why I was Huh!

My Answer is; who gives a flying Fadoo!

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Ok, what's a Fadoo, let alone a flying one???

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Just remember the RAILROADS invented the Time Zones we use today
Why? cause the 1000s of TZs the USA conflicted with train schedules & often accidents happened
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I never understood the point of daylight savings time. Timezones make sense, but it gets dark when it gets dark. Who cares if it's an hour earlier? This is probably all just some government conspiracy
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Hey Mike:

Ask Bob McCowan on the Fan 590 sports radio, I pirated it! Use the context and you'll get there.
Hey you coming any where near TO any time soon I'm clearing some stuff out thought some might interest you?

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My vote is, that I favor DST. I love the late evening daylight... I think there should be a TST (Temperature Savings Time) that keeps Ohio at a sunny 85 degrees all year long...
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quote:
My vote is, that I favor DST. I love the late evening daylight... I think there should be a TST (Temperature Savings Time) that keeps Ohio at a sunny 85 degrees all year long...

Originally posted by walt - March 11 2013 :  12:52:35 AM



Walt,

I'd take a TST that keeps NC at an overcast 72 degrees all year long! (My freckled skin can't handle too much sunlight! )

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