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Posted - October 02 2012 : 4:33:44 PM
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The wild west idea in the other thread has been canned so to speak. I was watching my old copy of Glory Machines and stumbled on the perfect shortline ( in my book ) to model in my small room. The East Jordan & Southern. I can tie in my logging modeling as that was the original purpose for the line and to serve the iron works at East Jordan, Michigan. Motive power was 2 moguls, of which I will model the #6 first using an old brass model I am hoping to aquire shortly. My stuggle is, however, that I totaly suck at drawing up track plans that will acutaly work in real life. My room is 100" wide by 111" long I had shelf type bench work up at one point, took it down but its easily put back up. Its all 24" deep. I plan to put one section in, goes from door to room to the north wall for a total distance of 76 inches, that puts that second up against the north wall. I then have a second 24" wide table that goes along the north wall, so I have a full 100" of bench work across the that wall when combined with the first shelf section. Finaly I have a section, also 24" wide, that ties into the north wall shelf and goes along the rooms front wall for a distance of 106 inches. I am thinking of a point to point line, the real EJ&S was only 18miles long, with East Jordan at one end and Bellaire at the other where the line interchanged with the Pere Marquette. You have an iron works in E Jordan, logs dropped off at the mill on Lake Charlevoix, probably outbound cut lumber, Passenger/freight was handled in an old ex GT combine on the rear of the daily train. The line was the perfect example of Beebe's mixed train daily. The train running in the snow was really neat in the old video. The line never had any geared locos, just a 4-4-0 at the begining, 2 Moguls and a small diesel at the very end. From the video, there was a turning "Y" at Bellaire as she was running engine first both directions. I am thinking a small armstrong turntable at E Jordan, and the turning y at Bellaire at the PM interchange as that is what it looked like from the video. Just not sure where to put everything and make it look convincing. Really wanna try and keep with the rural look of the area, the PM trackage will just be a stub end track that I can stage traffic on to pick up and then drop back off. Maybe find an old Rivarossi PM berkshire to park there. If anybody is really good at drawing up track plans, please give me some needed help. And yes I still plan to collect my childhood tycos and run them on the layout! Mike
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Posted - October 02 2012 : 8:31:31 PM
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Doing a shelf layout? What radius's are you wanting and what turnout types? I imagine you want code 100 track.
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Posted - October 02 2012 : 8:46:32 PM
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Standard atlas code 100 track, #4 snap track turnouts. There is no diamond at the PM interchange in Bellaire, track just goes left and right, so a "Y" turnout at the top of the triangle, and #4's at each end. Not sure that will fit in my table space, but I can play with the one sides width a bit. Thats on the end of the longest side that goes above my work bench. Mike
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Posted - October 03 2012 : 8:42:43 PM
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A lot of TYCO equipment runs on 15 inch radius and snap switches.
You can spend years building virtual layouts with free software like Atlas' RightTrack; http://www.atlasrr.com/righttrack.htm trying to match the perfect idea into the actual space you have.
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Posted - October 03 2012 : 10:43:35 PM
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The whole plan may get modified anyway, depends on which engine I end up with. For the engines I already have, I need 18" radius min for them. Mike
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Posted - October 05 2012 : 11:02:02 PM
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[quote]A lot of TYCO equipment runs on 15 inch radius and snap switches.
You can spend years building virtual layouts with free software like Atlas' RightTrack; http://www.atlasrr.com/righttrack.htm trying to match the perfect idea into the actual space you have.
I read the help. Program drove me nuts. Tried over and over to work with flex trak and nevr got what i wanted.
Gave up
A tutorial would be a big help
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Posted - October 05 2012 : 11:04:10 PM
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I suggest broader curves. Helps to avoid buying a engine that can't handle 18" curves. I say try 22"-24" curves.
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 10:38:29 AM
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[quote]I suggest broader curves. Helps to avoid buying a engine that can't handle 18" curves. I say try 22"-24" curves.
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - October 05 2012 : 11:04:10 PM [/quote
i so agree where ever possible same with passenger and box cars
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 8:12:21 PM
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I am planning to change some things in the layout room to allow for bigger curves, 22" will be as big as I can go with some 18" in yards and sidings. With what I just bought on ebay and what other engine I want to get later this year, I need the 22" on the main line. really wanna find a nice batch of old Tru Scale ready made track to build the layout with. Mike
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