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 Posted - June 25 2012 : 12:31:23 AM
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I picked up this set of six passenger cars that appear to have been built in the early 1950's at a flea market yesterday. If anyone can identify a manufacturer it would be appreciated...
I have not had time to clean or polish them yet...
Mike
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Posted - June 25 2012 : 12:55:16 AM
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Mike,
Those are beautiful!  Hopefully someone here can help you...I'm interested to see what brand they are as well 
cheez
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Posted - June 25 2012 : 05:03:12 AM
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By the looks of those cars, those might be Globe! They resemble Athearn strongly!
Plastic or metal bodies?
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Posted - June 25 2012 : 06:39:18 AM
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| Not Globe, not even close; Herkimer/OK most likely.
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Posted - June 25 2012 : 07:03:13 AM
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quote:By the looks of those cars, those might be Globe! They resemble Athearn strongly!
Plastic or mental bodies?
Originally posted by EM-1Â -Â June 25 2012Â :Â 05:03:12 AM
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Metal bodies...
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 12:10:05 AM
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quote:Not Globe, not even close; Herkimer/OK most likely.
Originally posted by lvrr325Â -Â June 25 2012Â :Â 06:39:18 AM
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I agree, The vista dome car has the clear plastic top with the painted silver window framing - that screams OK Streamliner product to me, as well as the wood bases and details... Nice complete set! Awesome find!
To follow in this theme of old timers... Here is my just purchased today Streamliner SOTW:
It is a Varney B&O Brass Streamlined Pacific with the original proper tender and a 7 car Varney wood & card stock B&O passenger set:
They came with this Pre-war Gilbert HO Hudson and 3 New Haven passenger car set:
So I guess my post was sort of a double whammy!
Sean
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 01:18:25 AM
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Sean,
Where on earth did you find that Varney Brass B&O P-7e?  You got my full attention on that one, I'D LOVE to find just the engine as I want to model that beast! [LOL} BUT, I'm sure YOU knew that! LOL
NICE find! I'm droolin' and jealous!
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 02:44:26 AM
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quote:
Sean,
Where on earth did you find that Varney Brass B&O P-7e? You got my full attention on that one, I'D LOVE to find just the engine as I want to model that beast! [LOL} BUT, I'm sure YOU knew that! LOL
NICE find! I'm droolin' and jealous!
Originally posted by EM-1Â -Â June 29 2012Â :Â 01:18:25 AM
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John,
I purchased it today on eBay here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271001054977?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Sale price: $124.01 + $33 s/h
Combined, I kind of stole them I guess you could say. I think there is a pre-war Varney Pacific with the aluminum tender in that lot too if I understand the description and believe the instruction sheet I see.
I have been hunting the tender for this engine for some time. It is the only one like it I will now have. From the photos, it looks like it is all wood. I have one friend that has one and that is the only other I have ever seen a photo of.
In all, I have 4 of the streamlined brass Varney locos. One is bronze and the molded details are slightly different. See the below link:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/sets/72157630332982578/
Sean
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 1:15:28 PM
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Sean
The seller's feeble attempt at describing the lot, is the main reason it went so cheap. There is no mention of Gilbert, American Flyer or Varney anywhere in the listing. I must compliment you in finding it.
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 2:11:05 PM
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quote:Sean
The seller's feeble attempt at describing the lot, is the main reason it went so cheap. There is no mention of Gilbert, American Flyer or Varney anywhere in the listing. I must compliment you in finding it.
Originally posted by waw47Â -Â June 29 2012Â :Â 1:15:28 PM
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Hi WAW47!
Thank you and you are 150% correct! Being that I am only going to be 42 next month and I was very poor growing up and had no access to nor did I know anyone else who had any vintage trains; I never knew these things existed until 6-7 years ago. It was not until I started selling trains on eBay back in 2005 that I first was exposed to some of these older models.
I joined a very good yahoo email discussion group VintageHO sometime back then and from there and just by selling these vintage pieces I began to pick up on what things were. I also joined yardbirdtrains yahoo group.
I also became very good at spotting what things were in photographs. For instance...
I have gotten good enough (with my corrected 20:650 vision in both eyes) to pick out items like this BRASS KEN KIDDER HOn3 0-4-0 "STEAM DUMMY" POWERED LOCOMOTIVE:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9977705@N05/sets/72157628492676797/
I found it within this listing's last photograph:
/tyco/forum/uploaded/Mustangs_n_Trains/20120629140120_dummy.JPG
This was the listing (From Novmber 2011, I am surprised it can still be seen):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/270849908043?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
Needless to say, it was a very good buy too. I guess it is just a passion. I spot things that most people over look. I do not even look at descriptions anymore. I take and copy the photos, bring them into excel, blow them up and tally the values of what I see and come up with my max bids that way. I rarely shoot from the hip and guess at a value. Any more though I can pretty much do the bid max math in my head.
Sean
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 2:26:32 PM
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you guys have got it made with these job lots,most are listed as sell to usa only,and if the did send to uk,the postage would make it a waste of time,plus 20% vat and if you are really unlucky customs duty and handling fee,have yet to see anything that as a job lot would be worth buying here in uk ken
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 3:09:56 PM
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quote:you guys have got it made with these job lots,most are listed as sell to usa only,and if the did send to uk,the postage would make it a waste of time,plus 20% vat and if you are really unlucky customs duty and handling fee,have yet to see anything that as a job lot would be worth buying here in uk ken
Originally posted by catfordken - June 29 2012 : 2:26:32 PM
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I feel pretty lucky Ken, in fact, very lucky. ...but then again, I see this auction house in the UK all the time on-line with some pretty good listings of trains. I have the same feelings about that site. You still seem to do pretty well Ken! You have some sweet pieces for sure!
http://www.vectis.co.uk/Page/ViewAuctionLots.aspx?AuctionId=26&DayNo=1&Section=399
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http://www.1818auctioneers.co.uk/sales/84/2011-06-28/Monthly-Auction-of-Antiques--Collectables-including-Collectors-Sale-of-Toys---Models----Railwayana/17/
That always seem to have some pretty nice stuff posted as lots.
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 3:52:02 PM
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| been a member of both,never seen lots come up with a brass locos like you get,used to get dublo and that sort of thing,but anything that is decent is taken out and sold in small lots that go for fairly high prices,its still cheaper for me to have what i want shipped in small lots from states and pray i am lucky,ken
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 4:10:21 PM
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quote:been a member of both,never seen lots come up with a brass locos like you get,used to get dublo and that sort of thing,but anything that is decent is taken out and sold in small lots that go for fairly high prices,its still cheaper for me to have what i want shipped in small lots from states and pray i am lucky,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - June 29 2012 : 3:52:02 PM
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Ken,
I suppose you are right. I guess the grass always seems greener on the other side too. (from both sides I suppose)
Sean
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 4:20:32 PM
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| sean you are right there,anyway happy with my little lot,for now anyways ken
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Posted - June 29 2012 : 4:58:26 PM
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Sean, that is some nice sets!
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Posted - June 30 2012 : 07:58:31 AM
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Here is a set for this week !
* The Tyco Western & Atlantic passenger set.
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Posted - June 30 2012 : 08:45:02 AM
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quote:Here is a set for this week !
* The Tyco Western & Atlantic passenger set.
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Nice set Frank! 
I have always admired those Generals an passenger consists!
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Posted - June 30 2012 : 08:56:36 AM
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quote:Sean, that is some nice sets!
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - June 29 2012 : 4:58:26 PM
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You could not be more right Justin! At some point, I plan to restore the B&O Varney consist. I think as a set restored, they will look awesome!
Hope you and everyone else here have a good 4th of July! I am leaving for Niagara Falls with my wife and kids for 4 days today!
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