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 Posted - April 25 2012 : 1:39:14 PM
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I have a GG-1 that I would like to re-motor for DCC. I've read the earlier Tyco MU-2 truck had a 5 pole motor and was much sturdier. This seems to be the better way to go. I'd like to find a donor loco on ebay to make the switch. My question is which early Tyco engines have MU-2 trucks?
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 2:25:34 PM
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Cab1, ya can remotor the original power t with a CD ROM motor. Easy to do and will last as long as the old phase 1 MU-2. Somebody here has added DCC to a MU-2 and somebody has done a DCC for a CDROM Tyco Power Torque. Its possible. Fitting a MU2 onto a GG-1 would need more work.
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 7:51:05 PM
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quote:Cab1, ya can remotor the original power t with a CD ROM motor. Easy to do.... Fitting a MU2 onto a GG-1 would need more work.
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - April 25 2012 : 2:25:34 PM
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Um..."easy" ? As compared to dropping a Dodge V-10 Hemi into a Mini Cooper? Every conversion I've seen requires milling the PT housing for the CD rom motor. I don't happen to have a mill available to me cheap, you offering? Yes, it's been done, but so far, those people haven't shared how they got it milled,or how much it cost them. Having a business with the right equipment helps, but that is the 1%,not the other 99% of us. Let us know how the 99% can get it done "easy" and/or cheap, I'm all ears....
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 7:54:04 PM
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all you need is a dremel & some sanding drums. it's easy, no milling at all required, just grinding. i did a thread on here about how to do it & i think brianstyco has too.
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Edited by - smokie on April 25 2012 7:55:36 PM
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 7:57:36 PM
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I think a die grinder would do just as well. Harbor Frieght has some ol' cheapos for less than $40.
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 7:57:40 PM
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MU-2 motors were in the C430 and GP20, that I know. Didn't the early C630 have an MU-2 motor?
Tony Cook's HO Resource site should explain all that. You'll need to do some research to see when the switch over to PT's occurred.
P.S. I noticed this was your first post to the forum... Welcome!
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Edited by - NC shortlines on April 25 2012 7:59:57 PM
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 8:08:16 PM
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C-630's never had a MU2. You forgot about the F9, trolley, and MDT!
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 9:12:52 PM
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quote: quote:Cab1, ya can remotor the original power t with a CD ROM motor. Easy to do.... Fitting a MU2 onto a GG-1 would need more work.
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - April 25 2012 : 2:25:34 PM
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Um..."easy" ? As compared to dropping a Dodge V-10 Hemi into a Mini Cooper? Every conversion I've seen requires milling the PT housing for the CD rom motor. I don't happen to have a mill available to me cheap, you offering? Yes, it's been done, but so far, those people haven't shared how they got it milled,or how much it cost them. Having a business with the right equipment helps, but that is the 1%,not the other 99% of us. Let us know how the 99% can get it done "easy" and/or cheap, I'm all ears....
Jerry
Originally posted by AMC_Gremlin_GTÂ -Â April 25 2012Â :Â 7:51:05 PM
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Information on a CD drive conversion into a PT block.
http://tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2960
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Posted - April 25 2012 : 10:57:27 PM
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All you need to hog out the zamac PT block is a Dremel with a steel cutter, which makes much faster progress than a sanding drum or grinding stone.
The MU-2 would fit in the GG1, but it only has two axles. The PT was the first Tyco drive that allowed for 6 axle units. The lack of a center wheelset might not be as noticeable with the sideframes in place, and the Tyco GG1 is pure fantasy anyway.
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Posted - April 26 2012 : 12:41:07 PM
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quote:I think a die grinder would do just as well. Harbor Frieght has some ol' cheapos for less than $40.
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - April 25 2012 : 7:57:36 PM
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a die grinder is what i use. it takes about five minutes.
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Posted - April 26 2012 : 1:06:34 PM
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Smokie, what size (chuck) do you use? I seen the 1/4" rear exhaust sell at Harbor Frieght for less than $25.
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Posted - April 26 2012 : 3:48:16 PM
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1/4" collet rear exhaust jet brand. i use a 1/2" cutting burr & it removes metal fast.
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Posted - July 16 2012 : 11:25:04 PM
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Or if you want to do the poor man's method, you can do some very artistic filing with a small file set. I'm sure it's possible if you really put your mind to it!
As for the Super 630's original drive, it used a chassis made by Rivarossi (the hint is the big square motor with "Rivarossi" printed on it, if you've seen one!). The drive was a cheapened version of the one used on their U25C, with plastic instead of metal gears, and I think plastic wheels on either side like all Tyco diesels. It wasn't as smooth as the U25C chassis, but it looked a lot more realistic than the PT drive.
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 06:37:52 AM
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I think I'd borrow a rotary tool or consider another method of re-powering before I'd use a file.
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