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 Posted - April 22 2012 : 4:12:40 PM
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hello did walthers ever actually produce the e60cf in the virginian roadname as advertised??? did walthers or american gk offer 2 roadnumbers per roadname? and finaly why do some e60cf shells have extra holes that are not used on the roof where the electric insulators go, any ansewrs whould be great thanks
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Posted - April 22 2012 : 8:10:55 PM
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I don't know anything about that particular model, but I did buy a Walthers F40 about a year ago. It had a number of "holes"..."indents"...whatever you want to call them all the way up the side of the engine that should have had grab irons supplied for them. For whatever reason though, the grab irons were neither included (as the rest were), nor were they listed in the instructions/parts manual. I just assumed this was some sort of cost cutting measure. Maybe the unused holes is a common thing  ...in my opinion it's not something that should be acceptable on such pricey models. The engine itself ran like crap too...I'm not impressed with Walthers in general.
That's my rant...sorry I couldn't be more helpful! 
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Posted - April 23 2012 : 12:39:30 PM
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i know what you mean , its a bit bothersome to buy a model only to see that cost cutting was used , for the price at least they should include grabirons and or handrails and pre drilled holes, i remember buying some amtrak cars walthers made, came with handrails but one had to drill the holes and the casrs were not cheap, sometimes they seem to have ideas and never use them leaving us modelers scractching are head, thats the nice thing about katos they come with grabirons and drilled holesquote:I don't know anything about that particular model, but I did buy a Walthers F40 about a year ago. It had a number of "holes"..."indents"...whatever you want to call them all the way up the side of the engine that should have had grab irons supplied for them. For whatever reason though, the grab irons were neither included (as the rest were), nor were they listed in the instructions/parts manual. I just assumed this was some sort of cost cutting measure. Maybe the unused holes is a common thing ...in my opinion it's not something that should be acceptable on such pricey models. The engine itself ran like crap too...I'm not impressed with Walthers in general.
That's my rant...sorry I couldn't be more helpful!
Originally posted by DaCheez - April 22 2012 : 8:10:55 PM
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Posted - April 23 2012 : 12:44:49 PM
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some of the walthers stuff is good, the e60c locos were actually american gk kits , probably explains the better details, walthers car kits are good , but all the trainline locos are vary lacking in detail and motors, i got a dash 8-40b and had the same frustracion you got, no grabirons , no printed number boards , a real shame , they could make some really nice models if at least they offered grab iron kits , the walthers proto2000 locos are good but to expensive quote:I don't know anything about that particular model, but I did buy a Walthers F40 about a year ago. It had a number of "holes"..."indents"...whatever you want to call them all the way up the side of the engine that should have had grab irons supplied for them. For whatever reason though, the grab irons were neither included (as the rest were), nor were they listed in the instructions/parts manual. I just assumed this was some sort of cost cutting measure. Maybe the unused holes is a common thing ...in my opinion it's not something that should be acceptable on such pricey models. The engine itself ran like crap too...I'm not impressed with Walthers in general.
That's my rant...sorry I couldn't be more helpful!
Originally posted by DaCheez - April 22 2012 : 8:10:55 PM
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Posted - April 23 2012 : 1:09:48 PM
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| hi conrailb23,you have answered your own answer,proto2000 are to expensive is the clue,remember everything comes at a cost,cheap lacking detail,expensive more detail ken
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Posted - April 23 2012 : 10:33:48 PM
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well..... not really, older p2k locos are pretty cheap on ebay sure you need to maybe add or change some detail but for a real good price you can get a gp18 with lots of details installed, they werent to darn expensive when new either, some athearn rtr locos that are really detailed like the sd50 or sd40t2 are cheaper than the newest p2k stuff, ,or at least they werer last time i checked. yet locos like bman b23 or gp40 are too expensive for what is delivered, now adays a good atlas can cost at least 150 , what ever happended to good models for a fair price, i understand the cost to produce stuff but how does it go up between runns? and would it really raise the price so much to include grabs and pre drilled holes? a lot of younger modelers dont have a drill or even know what detail parts to use, still my question is unaswered, why are there extra holes on some walthers and american gk loco roofsquote:hi conrailb23,you have answered your own answer,proto2000 are to expensive is the clue,remember everything comes at a cost,cheap lacking detail,expensive more detail ken
Originally posted by catfordken - April 23 2012 : 1:09:48 PM
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Posted - April 23 2012 : 11:23:17 PM
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quote:still my question is unaswered, why are there extra holes on some walthers and american gk loco roofs
Originally posted by conrailb23Â -Â April 23 2012Â :Â 10:33:48 PM
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They may be for detail that they intended to include, but that didn't make it to production.
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Posted - April 30 2012 : 11:59:13 AM
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that makes sence, , earlier e60cf kits have more holes than the later walthers shells i have seen . i know that there were at least 3 detail variations, mostly consisting of small insulater bridge detail parts , can be distinguished by the color of the agk instrucions and instrucion sheet colors, pink ,green and yellow, i wonder what details never made it into producion quote: quote:still my question is unaswered, why are there extra holes on some walthers and american gk loco roofs
Originally posted by conrailb23Â -Â April 23 2012Â :Â 10:33:48 PM
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They may be for detail that they intended to include, but that didn't make it to production.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â April 23 2012Â :Â 11:23:17 PM
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