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 Posted - July 26 2008 : 09:54:13 AM
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I just bought a batch, #20, LL knuckle couplers that are designed to fit Tyco type coupler boxes. The coupler has the whiskers for the spring action and a small hole in the shank to fit Tycos and other coupler boxes. I still have horn hook on most of my Tyco but have knuckles on my kit rolling stock, etc. This would certianly be reversable if you wanted to sell your "stock" Tyco car.
I paid $6.50 for 20 and the 4 pack was $3.00.
These won't work in your KD boxes without modification.
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 10:29:26 AM
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Hey AF:
Will they couple/UN-C with Kadee's?
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 10:48:40 AM
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Another option is the adapter Kadee makes for the truck mounted talgo couplers.
http://www.kadee.com/conv/pdf/t300.pdf
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 11:44:06 AM
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Hi:
Actually Iwas more interested in whether they could hookup with the existing units (Kadee's and other knuckle couplers)
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 12:21:52 PM
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They have an uncoupling bar/hook just like the popular brands and are sprung to open and shut, couple/uncouple. I don't know why they wouldn't be compatible with other brands. They're as easy to install as regular tyco horn hooks. No need to modify anything, no extra parts involved. Remove old coupler, install new knuckle coupler. [:D]
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 2:01:03 PM
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Here's a pic of the couplers. I put one in the VGN hopper in less than a minute. I ran it with a loco with the old style brass box spring KD coupler and it pulled well. Once I removed it from the track I noticed the whisker on one side was hung-up on the Tyco coupler box. I tried to trim it and couldn't cut it with my pocket knife but when installed again it sprung ok to both sides of the coupler box.
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Posted - July 26 2008 : 8:42:57 PM
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Being that the coupler is centered in the truck,I'll bet there's less of a chance that derailments will happen.
The horn hook couplers when coupled put sideways tension on the trucks making them prone to derailing over switches,and reverse moves.
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Posted - July 28 2008 : 5:53:33 PM
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| Cool buy AF!! I like those.
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Posted - July 28 2008 : 6:48:36 PM
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Thanks for the info AF!
Day in and Day out, I always find new information on this site thanks to some really experienced modelers.
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 Posted - July 29 2008 : 03:50:04 AM
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simple comment...
put knuckle couplers on one end and hornhooks on the other ends.
Save from having to convert your entire rollingstock to one or the other. Also allows you to use any vintage or brand-new locomotives to pull the load.
John
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Posted - July 29 2008 : 07:12:19 AM
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Where did you get those couplers and what does LL stand for...like that idea...garret "the fanged one"
"Though amid all the smoking horror and diabolism of a sea-fight, SHARKS will be seen longingly gazing up to the ship's decks, like hungry dogs round a table where red meat is being carved, ready to bolt down every killed man that is tossed to them . . ." by Herman Melville
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Posted - July 29 2008 : 09:54:14 AM
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Garret, LL stands for Life Like,a company bought by Walthers.
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Posted - July 29 2008 : 6:48:02 PM
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| I couldn't find them on Walthers web site or eBay. I would like to have some.
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Posted - July 30 2008 : 4:10:54 PM
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They do go in easy and pull fine. They seem to spring better to one side than the other and this might cause problems if you're into proto operation.
If your local hobby shop, LHS, doesn't have them maybe Tony Cook has a lead since I think he's associated with a hobby shop.
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Posted - July 31 2008 : 12:25:59 PM
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AF, did you get those couplers at your LHS? I don't think my LHS has them, but I'm sure they would order them. They look like a quick way to make talgo equipment Kadee compatible without doing something irreversible.
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Posted - July 31 2008 : 4:14:21 PM
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Nelson,
The LHS owner had just received them and pointed them out to me. The 4 pack was $3 and the 20 pack was $6.50. I think the regular horn hooks by LL are $4.
You're right making talgo equip KD compatible.
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