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 Posted - July 09 2012 : 1:35:38 PM
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While on vacation last week, I found this at an antique store.
Have not had a chance to test it yet, but looks great.
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Posted - July 09 2012 : 5:05:21 PM
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70elcamino,
that's really a find and it looks unused. Was it the only Tyco or HO item they had?
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Posted - July 09 2012 : 5:59:11 PM
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wish i could find these in antique stores!
I buy, repair, and collect
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Posted - July 09 2012 : 6:59:05 PM
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quote:70elcamino,
that's really a find and it looks unused. Was it the only Tyco or HO item they had?
Originally posted by Alco Fan - July 09 2012 : 5:05:21 PM
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He actually had a few more cars out of the box, but they were $10 each and nothing special.
The dealer that actually owned them apparently bought out some old man who was having to move in with his family in another town. So at one time there was a lot, but had already sold most of it.
I did buy a new in the box Athern set, it's called the Leland Stanford, named after the family who started Stanford university.
And I found a train store in OKC, and bought a few cars from him.
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Posted - July 09 2012 : 7:22:14 PM
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It's red box, so it has the brass axle bearings. What did you pay?
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Posted - July 09 2012 : 7:54:33 PM
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quote:It's red box, so it has the brass axle bearings. What did you pay?
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â July 09 2012Â :Â 7:22:14 PM
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$37 bucks.
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Posted - July 09 2012 : 8:59:48 PM
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Not bad. My brown box Pacific cost me $30 in 1976, and that was the one with all of the problems.
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Posted - September 16 2012 : 09:52:38 AM
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I found this in a box of trains that I bought for $100 but I don't know what it is or when it was made. maybe somebody here can help with this. It doesn't run so I'm sending it ti Yardbird for repair but meantime I'm looking for detail parts to add to it and trying to find out what it looked like when it was new. I see that thre is a simial one here on this thread but havn't found one that says T.Y.C.O. on the tender. Any info would be very much appreciated. Pete
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Posted - September 17 2012 : 10:16:46 AM
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As the other thread said, that is actually one of the earlier post-war pacifics. You said the tender and loco were both metal and that is the giveaway. A nice find! The "T.Y.C.O." on the tender puts this in the "Little Trains" era of 1950-54, with the green boxes... Mantua was just beginning to phase-in the "Tyco" name at that time. The lopp-n-hook couplers are another giveaway as this was a Mantua trademark before the X2F hornhook was developed. This loco was available separately as a kit.... since yours is decorated it may have been part of a set.
It does look complete and in excellent shape, and doesn't appear to be missing anything. Actually I don't see a pickup wire connecting the loco to the tender, so that might be why it doesn't run. I don't have many of the early Mantua steamers so there are probably some particulars I'm unaware of, but I think the motors on these are pittman-style and easily serviced (or replaced if necessary). Parts are very easy to come by.
I'd clean it up and get it running, but otherwise leave the paint as-is. Nice find!
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Posted - September 18 2012 : 12:59:45 AM
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Those older Pacifics are nicer, having a metal pilot (and cab I believe), a larger, more powerful motor and enclosed gearbox.
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Posted - September 18 2012 : 9:51:33 PM
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quote:
It does look complete and in excellent shape, and doesn't appear to be missing anything. Actually I don't see a pickup wire connecting the loco to the tender, so that might be why it doesn't run.
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I've only got one, so I don't want to be too general and say "all". On mine, there's no wire from the tender to loco, and it seems there never was one. My die cast T.Y.C.O. tender doesn't have a frame. The trucks screw into molded in posts sticking down from the inside top of the shell. The trucks are also different. Not what you'd think of if you look at any of the later Tyco/Mantua tender trucks. I'm not sure now, but the trucks may even have plastic wheel/axle sets in them too. I remember thinking I'd add a wire for better pick up, but then took one truck off and what I saw made me scratch the idea. I just can't remember now exactly what I saw. Guess I'll have to dig it out.
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Posted - September 18 2012 : 10:03:14 PM
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curious
is the engine powered or the tender
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Posted - September 19 2012 : 12:09:25 AM
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quote:
I've only got one, so I don't want to be too general and say "all". On mine, there's no wire from the tender to loco, and it seems there never was one. My die cast T.Y.C.O. tender doesn't have a frame. The trucks screw into molded in posts sticking down from the inside top of the shell. The trucks are also different. Not what you'd think of if you look at any of the later Tyco/Mantua tender trucks. I'm not sure now, but the trucks may even have plastic wheel/axle sets in them too. I remember thinking I'd add a wire for better pick up, but then took one truck off and what I saw made me scratch the idea. I just can't remember now exactly what I saw. Guess I'll have to dig it out.
Originally posted by newhudson - September 18 2012 : 9:51:33 PM
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They all had the loco pick up from one rail, and the tender pick up the other. If the wire isn't there then it was removed, but the lug screwed to the drawbar post on the tender. If it were loco pickup only it would have pickup wipers on the insulated drivers.
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Posted - September 19 2012 : 07:11:56 AM
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They all had the loco pick up from one rail, and the tender pick up the other. If the wire isn't there then it was removed, but the lug screwed to the drawbar post on the tender. If it were loco pickup only it would have pickup wipers on the insulated drivers.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â September 19 2012Â :Â 12:09:25 AM
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I could of course be wrong. I'll dig mine out tonight and see what I find. Maybe somebody even swapped trucks on me at some point? I at least remember my tender not having an open bottom truck, where say a wiper would connect to any powered axles like the way Tyco passenger cars or the searchlight car, etc had.
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Posted - September 19 2012 : 1:44:16 PM
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I looked at HO Seeker and while there is no diagram for the early Pacifics, the parts list mentions specifies that one of the tender trucks would have been dual-insulated (plastic) wheels, but the other would have been insulated on only one side. The parts list also says that the motor has a 4.5" lead wire (long enough to connect a tender), and I found no mention of wipers. So I would guess the lead tender truck was the conductive one, and the motor lead wire connected to the bolster or drawbar screw.
http://hoseeker.org/assemblyexplosionMantua/mantua462pcificpg3.jpg
I may have one of these needing repair, buried in a box. If nobody else here digs theirs out I'll see if I can check. But mine might be missing some parts anyway...
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Posted - September 19 2012 : 5:00:13 PM
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I has a question
Since some of these older locos & cars came with a loop type of coupler Is it easy to convert?
Neato loco tho Wish I could find some cheap 
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 Posted - August 11 2023 : 12:20:09 PM
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"I found this in a box of trains that I bought for $100.
I do not know what it is or when it was made.
Maybe somebody here can help with this.
It does not run so I am sending it to Yardbird for repair.
But meantime I am looking for detail parts to add to it and trying to find out what it looked like when it was new.
I see that there is a similar one here on this thread but hav not found one that says T.Y.C.O. on the tender.
Any info would be very much appreciated."
Originally posted by norgale on September 16 2012
Certainly is rare.
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Posted - September 13 2023 : 08:45:35 AM
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What you have is a Tyco Pacific from the 1950’s. The T.Y.C.O. Road name was Mantua’s venture into the rtr market - basically prebuilt Mantua models. This was before any plastic parts were used in the steamers. Very nice stuff and not too common.
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Posted - April 19 2024 : 09:43:33 AM
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I remember the first edition Kalmbach book "HO Railroad That Grows" had an 0-4-0 with the "T.Y.C.O" tender...
Good stuff, this.
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