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bell ringing?
OOOOO! I wanna sees the guts of that Alco to see how that works!
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also a unique factory error 430 without the gray roof vent.

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Joe that maybe the 31003 which is a 430 remake. It came with 430 on it.

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I got one for $12!!

YAY!!
now I needs some balsa wood ties for it hehe

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Use Basswood ties instead. The balsa wood is too soft for that purpose.
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*** Buss you got a good car there. Looks to be in good shape.
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*** Time to add another EMD F3A. B&O #421. The front pilot is broken and half mixxing. time for a replacement front pilot.
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A further addition is from 7-30-2017. The other B&O F3A 31007.


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I also have 3 new cars to add to the list.
My first Ping Pong American Flyer plastic passenger car. New haven 135. I still need at least one more of these and a Ping Pong combine. I got this for fifteen bucks also. The car is in good shape. Only needs couplers.
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edit 7-30-2017. Added to my collection 133 New Haven mail and baggage car and two more 135 New Haven coaches.


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# 524 My next car is Murrell Refrigerator car. If there is a 33524 I still don't have that either.
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post 110 updated list to here!

** Now my last new find is a New Haven flat car #33527. This is another one of the large metal cars. It may be the only one painted black. All the others are a light red. I don't have or know yet what the load should have been. My bell of the Eighties was handy, so it became the load for the photo.
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Hi Frank,
There were 3 black flatcars made. The 33527 NEW HAVEN flat carried a load of 6 pieces of lumber and also came with 10 stakes.

There also is a 33545 National Car Company flat with a Bordens Milk container and also a 33546 Illinois Central flat with a Jet Engine Transport container.

Also, yes, they did make a 33524 Morrell reefer.

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Hi Frank,
There were 3 black flatcars made. The 33527 NEW HAVEN flat carried a load of 6 pieces of lumber and also came with 10 stakes.

There also is a 33545 National Car Company flat with a Bordens Milk container and also a 33546 Illinois Central flat with a Jet Engine Transport container.

Also, yes, they did make a 33524 Morrell reefer.

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** Joe, old age brings on forgrtfullness. I have all 3 black ones. I just didn't remember. Thanks for the info. If you go to the first post you'll see I list all photo posts. I will get around to your last one.
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* Well, things do happen at train shows. At my last Timonium Maryland train show, a couple was there sell trains. They had 2 Gilbert 0-6-0's at a low price each. One was B&O 31019 and the other B&O 31031. I did not just pass them by, even though I had both already. I do have doubles now. I never expected to get a second 31019.
* Here is a few photos of them with 19 on the turntable and entrance tracks. #31! is on the first roundhouse track.
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Hey Frank. I hope you don't mind if I add a couple of photos. This is an American Flyer Hudson, I believe built from a kit and custom painted. Doing a little street running of course...


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* Hi Eric! Good to see another Gilbert Hudson. I never saw a kit for a Hudson. I hope you still got the box and use
it for storage of the 4-6-4. That would make it unique. I've seen kits for the Tank, reefer, gondola, and the caboose. All the old metal cars. I think, not sure, the passenger cars were made in kits also. It only makes sense that the Hudson would also be offered as a kit.
* Nice photo Eric.
* I'm gonna put a larger photo of the first of the three. Maybe get a feeling that you can just walk out across the tracks among the locomotives.
edit: I have seen the catalog showing the old passenger cars as kits. It is the 1938 catalog on page 10. HO-9 is the Coach and HO-14 is the Baggage-Mail car. sorry for the late editing.
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I LOVES street running railroads!
bet that won't make the curve since this is a trolley line

Plus that is the reason Philly Streetcars are at such a wide gauge
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Hey Frank, HOseeker has an instruction sheet for a Gilbert Hudson kit that I used to tear down and service this engine. Being it was custom painted and seemed to match the instructions I assumed it was a kit, but it may just be a standard engine someone repainted. A nice engine regardless. Unfortunately it did not come with its original box.
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Eric, they had kits for many of their first run of cars. Why not the Hudson. I just looked and found assembly instructions for a Gilbert Hudson.
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The American Flyer HO Kits were produced from 1938 to 1942.
The Hudsons were 6 volts.




http://www.myflyertrains.org/AF_Catalogs/D1259/AF_catalog_page10-11.htm
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The American Flyer HO Kits were produced from 1938 to 1942.
The Hudsons were 6 volts.




http://www.myflyertrains.org/AF_Catalogs/D1259/AF_catalog_page10-11.htm

Originally posted by waw47 - June 22 2017 :  10:47:58 PM



** Now that is a new Gilbert site to me. Thanks for the link. I'll be wandering through there every now and then. frank
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More great pieces from the dawn of HO. The gal in the red dress offsets
the red caboose nicely.

I'd like to see that Joe's Diner in BOTW sometime.
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The American Flyer HO Kits were produced from 1938 to 1942.
The Hudsons were 6 volts.
Originally posted by waw47 - June 22 2017 :  10:47:58 PM



What does that mean in terms of running it? Can I still operate it with a modern day transformer or will that damage it? The example I have has been converted to DC.
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I should have been more clear in my post. The pre-war American Flyer Hudson came with an AC motor. The Hudson could be converted to DC by using a permanent magnet marketed by Quaker City or a conversion kit made by Mantua.

http://hoseeker.net/mantuainformation/mantua1941pg38.jpg

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** I got lucky and found 2 more Gilbert trains I didn't have.
* #126 Sinclair tank in Black plastic with original metal frame and white lettering.



* the other is One of the last trains gilbert listed in 1956,
* L-3003 Santa-Fe F3A.


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no offence, toptrain
but sometimes I think the railroad logos look cheap & made up
Like that Santa Fe for example

but that was either the cheaper line or was made at the end of AF
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no offence, toptrain
but sometimes I think the railroad logos look cheap & made up
Like that Santa Fe for example

but that was either the cheaper line or was made at the end of AF

Originally posted by microbusss - August 14 2017 :  8:51:07 PM



Buss, you only think that because they are cheap. They, Gilbert, tried to produce a good product at a reasonable cost to them.

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Sean, you may like this post. A New haven Passenger train passes through Bergen Point.

** A Walter's NH DL-109 pulls a 1945 Gilbert HO Passenger set through Bergen Point.

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Great video. I'd enjoy seeing that snake through that cross over.
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Frank,
Some nice additions to your collection. The plastic NH cars are some of my favorites. A little polish on the roofs makes them look so nice going around.

A quick correction while I'm here. The L-3003 Santa Fe was cataloged as part of set 30705 in 1962. The 30705 set from 1961 contained the 31025 C&O diesel. Somewhere in this forum i have a post showing pics of most of the diesels and some variations.

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* In the back center of this photo is Gilbert C&O F3A 31025 with Gilbert caboose 33621 in tow.
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NICE C&O F UNIT!!!!
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*** Here is my Gilbert HO train collection up to todat 11-29-2017 ***
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Woah! Immense collection, toptrain!! Nice organization of photos, too.
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yeah I think you got the NP passenger cars from me
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Originally posted by microbusss - November 29 2017 :  11:06:10 PM



*Thanks, Robert, They are listed in numerical order as they were released.
*Ben, I am glad you remember for I do also. I got a three car set from you. They are a nice set, so thanks again for them, and I was able to get the other straight passenger car to complete the 4 different ones in that number series. There is an earlier series set of 4 #540 to 543. And a latter set of three #C-1002 to C-1004. It is like the set I got from you Ben, it didn't have a straight passenger car, only a domed one.
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Great collection, toptrain, and thanks for sharing. I didn't know Gilbert made a Jersey Central Lines Single-Dome Tanker. Is that an uncataloged car?


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No that is a tank car I had redone. When I got it, it's original finish was shot, all messed up. So I refinished it. Did you know that the lowest catalog numbers in Gilbert HO are, single digit? They are for the first cars released. Sold as kits you could make any way you wanted. Any road name. Of course, you would have to use your own decals.

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I've a bunch of 3 digit cars, but didn't know Gilbert made kits in the single digits. Thanks for the information. I'll keep an eye out for these kits.
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I've a bunch of 3 digit cars, but didn't know Gilbert made kits in the single digits. Thanks for the information. I'll keep an eye out for these kits.

Originally posted by Brian4321 - December 03 2017 :  12:32:22 PM



They were per WW2 offerings. The catalog pages are in HOseeker. Look in the 1938 catalog the catalog numbers have an HO perfect. HO 1 through HO-11. They cover the Hudson, all die-cast cars, Passenger and freight. Also three train sets, all Hudson Powered.
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*Ben, I am glad you remember for I do also. I got a three car set from you. They are a nice set, so thanks again for them, and I was able to get the other straight passenger car to complete the 4 different ones in that number series. There is an earlier series set of 4 #540 to 543. And a latter set of three #C-1002 to C-1004. It is like the set I got from you Ben, it didn't have a straight passenger car, only a domed one.
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thats ok
Am pretty sure Northern Pacific had those

As did every railroad West of Chicago

I say West cause at the time the bridge & tunnel clearances East of Chicago wasn't tall enough

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I am reminded of those advertisements where one purchased ten records
for a penny or something, and then one a month for the rest of your life
at the regular price, back in the '70's.

In Top Train's case, I rather think he has at least one issue of every
HO scale train ever made!
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I received this adorable Gilbert industrial switcher a little while ago. Just got around to taking a photo of it for the forum. It's the later one (made in about 1960 according to the Gilbert HO online resource) without the little counterweight on the back (although the slot for it is still there). It runs much better than I expected when I purchased it, frankly. A very reliable and cute little switcher.Surprisingly heavy for its size to with that big zamac shell.

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Great picture Steve. It should run very well, and weigh enough to pull a nice string of freight cars.
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Ditto on that. I am going to have find one. That is too cool.
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Cool little switcher!
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I was finally able to get my hands on an American Flyer HO Hudson after trying to find one for a decent price for a long time. This old girl is (according to the Gilbert HO online resource) from around 1955 (possibly 1956, as apparently some have shown up with 1956 dates on them). After a bit of work, she runs quite nicely, although the "Choo Choo" gear makes a somewhat obnoxious static-like noise. However, it has improved as the loco runs, and the "Choo Choo" is actually starting to work properly again as of the last time I ran it (last night). Got it for about $100 from a guy who was helping to liquidate a collection from the original owner who has dementia. Very happy to finally have one of these engines, though!


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Gilbert B drive Diesel Switcher, jack shaft type. Black, 31013.

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Those jack shaft critters are fascinating/
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quote:
I was finally able to get my hands on an American Flyer HO Hudson after trying to find one for a decent price for a long time. This old girl is (according to the Gilbert HO online resource) from around 1955 (possibly 1956, as apparently some have shown up with 1956 dates on them). After a bit of work, she runs quite nicely, although the "Choo Choo" gear makes a somewhat obnoxious static-like noise. However, it has improved as the loco runs, and the "Choo Choo" is actually starting to work properly again as of the last time I ran it (last night). Got it for about $100 from a guy who was helping to liquidate a collection from the original owner who has dementia. Very happy to finally have one of these engines, though!



Originally posted by kovacste000 - November 30 2021 :  4:12:05 PM



Congrats, kovacste000. You won't regret having that engine on your layout. From what I can see, it appears to be in great shape. It is a good smoker?
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Gilbert B drive Diesel Switcher, jack shaft type. Black, 31013.

frank



Originally posted by toptrain - November 30 2021 :  5:51:56 PM



Nice switcher, Frank. They may be small, but they are workhorses!
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quote:
quote:
I was finally able to get my hands on an American Flyer HO Hudson after trying to find one for a decent price for a long time. This old girl is (according to the Gilbert HO online resource) from around 1955 (possibly 1956, as apparently some have shown up with 1956 dates on them). After a bit of work, she runs quite nicely, although the "Choo Choo" gear makes a somewhat obnoxious static-like noise. However, it has improved as the loco runs, and the "Choo Choo" is actually starting to work properly again as of the last time I ran it (last night). Got it for about $100 from a guy who was helping to liquidate a collection from the original owner who has dementia. Very happy to finally have one of these engines, though!



Originally posted by kovacste000 - November 30 2021 :  4:12:05 PM



Congrats, kovacste000. You won't regret having that engine on your layout. From what I can see, it appears to be in great shape. It is a good smoker?

Originally posted by Brian4321 - November 30 2021 :  10:20:26 PM

Haven't really had the chance to check that out yet, but the smoke unit seems to be in very good shape (fairly clean, wires look okay, no deterioration as far as I can tell). The current draw when the loco is running is pretty typical for engines from this era (kinda high by modern standards). I did have to superglue one of the wheel rims back onto the white wall when I initially got it, but since I did that, it's been fine.I've had to do similar things with some of my old Wrenn locos when I first got them.Thankfully, it was a lot easier to do with this loco than it was for the Wrenn locos, funnily enough (probably because the Wrenn wheels actually came off of the axles, so I also had to glue that into place).

Update: She smokes beautifully!

-Steve

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