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Only here in the TF do I get to see these mainline classics
from the early days of HO. The couplers are most interesting,
and the cast on ladders, roof walks, while abhorred by
rivet counters, is crisp.

What I think of as the JP backdrop perfectly frames
the photo; vintage scenery technique showing off
a vintage HO.

El Paso was a large SP hub before the merger, never see that
one anymore!
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HObbylines Rock Island Box car. Allentown finds along with set #425 The Hilltopper and a (not seen)Aristo blue tender for a 4-6-0 Royal Blue.
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Here is another passenger set complete with proper locomotive and passenger cars. I post this set once before with black HObbyline FM H12-44 pulling it. Now i have the proper locomotive.

Here is set #415 "The Suburbanite"
A medium size passenger set made up of a Union Pacific FM H12-44 loco and three Heavyweight coaches. one is a Combine the others are 2 Day Coaches.
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Well today my first B&O passenger car came. It is a Combine heavyweight passenger car. Now to find 3 day coaches and a twin set of FA-1's. This will not be easy. I recieved 2 days ago a second Pennsy black set of FA-1's in perfect condition. On the way from 2 other sellers is first another Pennsy twin FA-1 set this one in Maroon, i think they both are powered. FA-1 came powered 3 ways. Some original ones instead of gears had 2 pullies and a drive belt. The second type was the geared dual power version. The third came out in 1956 and was called Plus-Power. It only had a rear truck powered but used traction tires on all four wheels. The other delivery is my long sought after Twin set of Union Pacific FA-1's. These are not beat up as my first FA-1 is and are geared dual power.


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It would seem i have been lucky and because of that bussy.
aquired PRR black Twin FA-1 set, and PRR maroon Twin FA-1 set, And a UP twin FA-1 set. All arrived just after the B&O combine in the next 3 or 4 days.
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Beautiful classics from the dawn of HO.
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Here are my 5 HObbyline Twin FA-1s- Western Pacific, Erie, Union Pacific, PRR Brunswick, PRR Tuscan.


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cool UP & WP *swipes*
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A look at the HObbyline FA-1's at their new storage yard between Rockport and Penn Haven.
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now that I think of it I MAY have one of them UP Alcos
cause it is a all steel construction
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Quite a line up.
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* I would love to go on posting new photos and info on HObbyline trains but there aren’t a whole lot of them remaining for me to find. A fact about them is in both ready to run and kit versions is they are mainly not the same. Kits are of cheaper quality in the trucks and couplers and the kit build and builder really affects its quality.. About the trucks and couplers both need to be replaced if you are going to run them. All the body parts are the same, there decoration change because almost all lettering is supplied from the decal sheet within the kit. The kit builder’s ability of mount these decals is what makes all the quality of the kit. Also different road names are available in kit and ready to run freight cars, tho some are the same. An example is the SP box car. Outside of the name almost all the lettering is different. For locomotives the steam 0-4-0t and 0-4-0 switches come in both ready to run and kit. All diesels, the FA-1 and H12-44 are only ready to run. I have never seen a kit for them. Of the 28 sets, 1 is single digit, 25, 3 digit and the last 2, 4 digit set numbers. The last two set of 4 digits all cars were kit cars that with factory assembled and better trucks were used. In the sets they made there is no constant on the road names of the freight cars within the sets. In a early pre 1953 to 1957 catalogs where info on the sets is found and can be compared, different road names appear on cars in freight sets when looking at one set number. What remains the same in the sets is the road name and type of loco in the set. The caboose changed sometimes. They started with cabooses mainly using the HObbyline name. Some had yellow colored lettering and some had white. Later on the road names Pennsylvania and Union Pacific started to appear in their respective sets. My “Hill topper set” #425 has a UP caboose to match its UP loco. Being we are talking about sets made 65 years ago, or more, the chance of a broken car being replaced with another of a different road name of type is possible. I have seen cars of a different manufactures within these sets. Sellers almost always refer to their sets as being proper and complete so that saying "let the buyer beware" must always be followed. From 1955 on pictures of sets in HObbyline magazine advertisements and catalogs show some freight cars that are either rare or just never released. The only way this last sentence can be unproven is by posting a photo of a "Conoco tanks car", or an "In Land chemical box" car or either of the two hoppers Frisco or Virginian. Also a picture of the elusive B&O heavyweight passenger set #462. For this you will definitely get my thanks and an apology if its wanted.


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My HObbyline catalogs and their set information. This was a lot of work.

The 1953 catalog.

This is the first catalog I know of.
This catalog I do not have. I have seen the cover and copied the cover of for information purposes.

The 1954 Catalog:
This catalog I have seen a reference to it's release as being soon. To this day I have not seen or found one. Maybe the yellow catalog.



The 1955 catalogs: abbreviations B- Box car, F flat car, G- gondola car, H- hopper car, T tank car, C- caboose. HL hobbyline. Roadnames will be abbreviated, ATSF, B&O, NYC, PRR, UP, WP, all should be recognisable.

My first 1955 catalog.

Is a 12 page one printed in a landscape format with pages 11 inches wide and 7 and 5/8 inches high. It is printed in grayscale and black. The cover has a drawing of the Alco FA-1 twin PRR passenger set on it. The 1955 date can be seen on page 2 with the text there in.

Sets seen in catalog in order that they appear.

# 421The Whistle stopper, C&O FM H12-44, G- PRR, T-Cities service, c- hobbyline.
# 416 The Prospector, ATSF H12-44, flat w load PRR, box car Frisco, C- HL.
# 411, The Wall Street, LV H12-44, 1 combine, 2 coaches.
# 446, Ridgerunner, PRR FA-1, flat PRR, b- GAEX, H- western Maryland, T- Union 76, C-HL.
# 430 Train Maker, PRR A5 0-4-0, combine, 2 coaches.
# 461, Cal Zephyr, WP twin FA-1, 3 pullman, 1 obs.
# 451 Lake Cities Exp, Erie, twin FA-1 combine, 3 coaches.
# 440 Yard Master, PRR 0-4-0, G- PRR, B-RI, T-Union 76, C- hobbyline.
# 456 Trail Blazer, PRR Twin FA-1, 3 pullman, 1 Observation.
# 466, Frontiersman, WP twin FA-1, g-PRR, T- cities service, h- Western Maryland, b-frisco, F-.
PRR, c-hl
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The second 1955 catalog:

The catalog Is a recent acquisition. It is a 8 page one printed in a portrait format, again in grayscale and black. It is 8 and ½ inches wide and 11 inches high. It is clearly labeled 1955 on the front cover page 1 and inside on page 2.
# 411 Wall Street, LV H12-44, 1 comb, 2 day coaches.
# 416 Prospector, ATSF H12-44, F-PRR, B- GAEX, C-HL.
# 421 Whistle stopper, C&O H12-44, G-P&LE, T-union 76, C- HL.
# 430 Train Maker, PRR 0-4-0, 1 combine, 2 day coaches.
# 466 Frontiersman, WP, twin FA-1, G-PL&E, B- gaex, F- PRR wl, T- Union 76, H- Frisco, C- HL.
# 440 Yardmaster, PRR 0-4-0, G- P&LE, T- Cities Service, B- Rock Island.
# 456, Trail Blazer, PRR twin FA-1, 3 pullman, 1 observation.
# 451, Lake Cities Express, Erie, twin FA-1, combine, 3 day coaches.
# 446, Ridgerunner, PRR twin FA-1, F- PRR, T- Cities Service, H- Frisco, B- Rock Island, C- HL.
# 461, California Zephyr, WP twin FA-1, 3 pullman, 1 observation.

The first 1956 catalog.

I found this online 6 months earlier than the second 1955 catalog. I think it is 6 or 8 pages. I am not sure. It is a important catalog because here with in this catalog a HObbyline major change has been made and noted. Here on this cover is seen for the first time the companies use of traction tires on drive wheels. It is referred to as the “Amazing new plus power”. This replaces their 8 wheel drive mechanisms on both the FA-1 and the FM H12-44 diesels.
Sets seen
# 431, Silver Meteor, PRR twin FA-1, 2 pullman, 1 observation.
# 426, Hot Shot, PRR twin FA-1, f- RDG, T- Conoco, B- In Land Ammonia Sulphate, H- Western Maryland.
# 412, Shuttle Bug, NYC 0-4-0t, t- Conoco, b- In Land Ammonia Sulphate. C- HL.
# 422, Yard Master, PRR 0-4-0 switcher, H- Western Maryland, T- Conoco, C- HL.
# 417, Pacemaker, B&O H12-44, G, B, h-WM, C- HL.

The second 1956 catalog:

This is one I have had for a few years. For a long time it hasn’t been dated for nothing within the catalog gives reference to a printing date. The catalog is referred to as the “RED catalog is printed in a landscape format with pages 11 inches wide and 7 and 5/8 inches high. It is printed in red, grayscale and black. The front and rear cover combine to show a PRR streamlined passenger set with 4 passenger cars. It is the Silver Meteor set with an additional car. The print can be read and its name is “Silver Dawn”. This is a 4 car set that was not released. This set is not dated as I have said. A period date can be surmised by reading through its text on the diesel powered sets. A description of these sets includes the statement that these are powered using HObbyline Power Plus drives. That information dates this catalog as 1956 because the set listed in this catalog match the sets in the other 1956 catalog. The company seems to have ended in early 1957. No information is found after this except for Hobby distributors selling off old stock in their sales flyers.
# 431, Silver Meteor, PRR twin FA-1, 2 pullman, 1 observation.
# 422, Yard Master, PRR 0-4-0 switcher, H- Western Maryland, T- Dupont, C- HL.
# 462, Hot Shot,PRR twin FA-1, F- Monon, T- Dupont, B- Seaboard, H- Western Maryland, C- HL.
# 417, Pacemaker, B&O H12-44, T- Dupont, B- Seaboard, C- HLl.
# 412, Shuttle Bug, NYC 0-4-0t #3220, T- Dupont, B- Seaboard, C- HL.

The Yellow catalog may be 1954.

Another catalog the “Yellow catalog” I will be receiving in a few days. I will place set info here soon. Within the catalog is noted the use of 8 wheel drives so this could be a 1954 missing catalog or another 1955 one. I believe it to be a missing 1954 catalog.

sets in order of appearance.

# 410, The Commuter PRR H12-44, 1 combine, 2 coaches.
# 430, The Train Maker PRR 0-4-0, 1 combine, 2 coaches.
# 420, Wayfarer PRR H12-44, g-, b- , F- , C- , can’t see any road names.
# 415, Suburbanite, UP H12-44, 1 combine, 2 day coaches.
# 440, Yard Master, PRR 0-4-0, t- ,b- ,G- ,C- .
# 425, hilltopper, UP H12-44. G- wabash, B- ,f- ,c- .
# 450, Metropolitan, PRR twin fa-1, 1 combine, 3 coaches.
# 455, Canyon Clipper, UP twin fa-1, 1 combine, 3 coaches.
# 460, growler, PRR twin fa-1, G- ,B- ,T- ,B- ,f- ,c- hl.
# 465, mountaineer, WP twin fa-1,G- wabash, b- ,t- cities service, b- ,f- ,c- hl.


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Great stuff. What cool names!
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now that I think of it I MAY have one of them UP Alcos
cause it is a all steel construction

Originally posted by microbusss - March 23 2020 :  12:12:58 PM



UP alcos made in white metal were common. John English made FA1 and FA-2, Lindsay and also HObbytown sold FA-1 and FA-2 die cast white metal loco's. There was even a OO version made by Fleischmann in the same way but large than HO but ran on HO track.

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Since you like Hobbyline so much, get one of the berkshire kits, and try to track down a motorization kit.....
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Alex. I don't have any interest in getting and building hobbyline kits, I aquire just ready to run loco's, cars, and sets. Certain box car kits if assembled ok and decals being still complete might on the right day attract my attention. These would be in box cars Central of Georgia, Western Pacific, Rio Grande, Boston and Main. in tank cars Union Starch, hoppers Alcoa, Cotton Belt and Reading, in flats T&P come to mind. what I am looking for is B&O FA-1 and passenger cars and LV passenger cars, H12-44 in ATSF, LVRR, and C&O, NYC 0-4-0t. A road named Hobbyline box car. For information the yellow 1953 catalog which combined English and HObbyline equipment of that date. Model Trains Magazines from 1953 and 1954 or just the Dec / winter additions which have the Christmas train sets shown in then. The Dec 1955 addition gave me good info on this line. I have purchased both 1956 and 1957 issues and await their coming to me.
I wonder if there is out there someone who knows if certain cars shown with sets on photos in advertisements and catalogs really exist or were they just promasses of things to come. My list of what I have found of these mystery cars is Inline Ammonia Sulphate box car, Conoco tank car, Virginian and Frisco hoppers, and PRR streamlined passenger car Silver Dawn. At this date there seem to be no one out there with the complete knowledge about HObbyline trains and sets. The US is a big country and maybe I'll find someone, someday.
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Oh, well, maybe one day you'll change your mind. I have always wanted to see someone power the Hobbyline berk. Anybody know anyone who has done it before?
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Well thanks to a member here I got to get a look at two like new HObbyline boxed passengers sets. The member is waw47, Bill. And here publicly I want to say "Thank you" to BILL for his help. The sets were excelent. The photography stinks. The lesser of the sets but still a real beauty is the Erie "Lake Cities Express" #451. The better one isn't just better to me the best #462 the B&O "Royal Blue".

Again Thank You Bill.
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Mega bundle, very, very nice. As Microbuss once pointed out,
those sets were manufactured when those trains were
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Here are two other HObbyline Gondolas I received in the mail yesterday. A different Western Maryland and another Lehigh and New England.
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Looks great, love the back scene as well. A very nice way
to display your huge collection.
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A new old car came today.
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HObbyline box car 1053 fits nicely in the Set #1 box of 1953 with other correct cars.
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I have another box car the Boston and Main.
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