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Poll Question:
Hey Guys:

Given the choice between having window glazing in your Caboose's and Engines or not what's your preference?

Choices:

I prefer Windows in.
I prefer no windows in.
What's a window?

(Anonymous Vote)

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I think windows are very nice addition in the trains. Esp windsheilds, that just looks better. But I will bet that I never get that done on my trains...
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I agree with Walt. Windows are a nice touch. For something so simple, they add a lot to an engine's/car's appearance.
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How about windows on one side and no windows on the other?
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That would work 59Chevy! I know the side windows in trains go up & down, or slide one way or another. That's why I mentioned in the previous post, that I think the windshields are most important. I can't recall ever seeing a train rolling down the rails with no front glass!!

I hope to add windows to all of my Engines and cabeese someday...

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Without windshields, the engineers would get bugs in their teeth!
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I like windows, but my HO scale teenagers keep breaking them with the Woodlands Scenics ballast.
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Windows, yes--when wanting detail and realism; no when trying to keep something pristine and collectible, which you may someday sell. I also love crew members in my operational locos.
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Great idea Adams, Gotta be someone drivin' these things!!
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Only problem with the polling is it's skewed...you don't allow for the option of " I like it sometimes ". While I may PREFER windows, most of mine are original condition. And I won't go to the trouble to install them in the toy variety unless I"m going to layout operate it, which is rare anyway.

Bottom line, I think they look great, definitely GOT to have them on the front for realism, but most of mine stay as they are.

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I agree - I'm going to add some realism to MOST of my stuff but not all of it. I do prefer windows - but will have some that are "down" when I can.
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what does look good is having window that are up or down,broken or dirty ken
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While I may PREFER windows, most of mine are original condition. And I won't go to the trouble to install them in the toy variety unless I"m going to layout operate it, which is rare anyway. Jerry

Originally posted by AMC_Gremlin_GT - March 21 2010 :  08:53:25 AM



Well, I gotta reply to my own quote now. I recently was working on my caboose consist project, and now have about 8 work and regular cabooses with windows in them. The cupola's are a lot of work! Anyway, I DO intend to run them at shows and club functions , and they DO look better than open-windowed tail-draggers, I'll admit.

My company is moving/downsizing in August, and last week I went thru ALL the old drawing/schematic/artwork files,and tossed hundreds of pounds of old obsolete drawings. However, there were many sheets of mylar sheets where the artwork was centered, and 6 to 8 inch borders of clear mylar, useable for houses, passenger cars and cabooses. I have saved about 30 lbs worth, some in 8 x 24 inch sheets, others 24x30 sheets. So I now have a lifetime supply of mylar to add windows to just about anything I own now. Some have yellowed with age, some are a brownish tint, adds more to the realism. some are even foggy. available for sale, postage cost.

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Most of the time I don't notice the lack of windows on cabooses, but my Athearn F7's are starting to bug me. There's something not quite right about the complete lack of windshields leading in to a light bulb.
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I have to agree with having glass at least for the windshield. If anything it makes the locomotive look a bit more solid up front. Plus, like what was said just above, the glass tends to hide that big light bulb...how many real trains do you see where the engineer and conductor are having a weenie-roast in the cab???
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I have to agree with having glass at least for the windshield. If anything it makes the locomotive look a bit more solid up front. Plus, like what was said just above, the glass tends to hide that big light bulb...how many real trains do you see where the engineer and conductor are toasting marshmallows and roasting weenies over an open fire in the cab???

Originally posted by CairnTerrier - August 26 2010 :  7:49:48 PM

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I like to use glass microscope slides for windows-nothing reflects the light like real glass. Works great for flat sided car windows, such as those on an DL-109 or an E-7. My biggest pet peeve as far as windows go? The round "porthole" style windows on F-unit and E-unit diesels-most model locomotives (if they have them at all) usually have the "glass" recessed much too far in-the glass is nearly flush with the window frame...
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My biggest pet peeve as far as windows go? The round "porthole" style windows on F-unit and E-unit diesels...usually have the "glass" recessed much too far in-the glass is nearly flush with the window frame...

Originally posted by a6m5zerosen - September 06 2010 :  3:09:39 PM



Unfortunately, there's only two ways to do it - have a custom or molded piece that fits IN the hole to come out near flush ( and many flush windshields or side glass I see are wavy, not smooth), or the cheaper route, put a mylar sheet on the inside of the body...which then makes it recessed. I guess there aren't many portal glass upgrade kits around. Pretty much dealing with the same thing with Cabooses and passenger cars, using Mylar it's usually recessed more than a stock flush window would be. One of the modeling detail drawbacks you run into with such a small scale. Imagine the N scale guy's issues with this! Don't even go there with Z, either.

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One method I have used in the past (with varying degress of success) is to put a glass microscope slide behing the hole, then fill the recess with Micro Krystal Clear up to the level of the window frame. Of course, it shrinks as it dries, so you have to do it several times, and I've never gotten it perfectly flat, like the glass behind it.
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Windshields yes. Side windows no. I want to get the heat out of the engine area. For some reason I always seem to burn up electric motors due to my sense of smell not being too good.
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I have a Tyco E-7 (City of San Francisco) that I put a Proto 2000 drive and DCC in. It didn't look right cruising around without windows. I've used Elmers white glue in building windows to make panes, but it comes out cloudy. Which is okay in buildings. Anyway Micro Mark sells this stuff called Window Glazing for Models that comes out relatively clear and looks great as windshields for the E7. The stuff is not expensive, until you have to pay the shipping. That's the killer. RAN
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I have to say I like the look of the Athearn F units without any windows. It may seem cheesey to some but I think it gives a "vintage look". Especially in the wake of the superdetailed RTR product out there now. Plus I remember an old timer saying that not having window glazing allowed the motor to run cooler. I did install the windows in my Athearn passenger cars.
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