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 Posted - October 24 2006 : 01:17:36 AM
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LOL I've noticed too. Used to be I could hit every new post and topic in a matter of minutes. I've been here off/on all evening tonight (yipe!) and it's STILL going!
At this rate, in a couple months it'll be one of those places that if you miss a couple days, um... don't bother? heh heh.
Glad to see it though. I felt kinda silly when I started here a few months ago. Nice to know I'm not alone (even if MagAc gives me guff sometimes ;) )
Thanks for providing this for us! If you ever need help with it, let me know.
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Posted - October 24 2006 : 01:24:51 AM
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So I guess the more of us that want to relive are child hood the more its going to cost. Supply and demand. So maybe I will hold off on my son playing with these soon to be high priced and collectible trains. I'm going to hoard all I can now so I can be rich in a few years.[:p]
We have nothing to fear, but fear itself!" - FDR
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Posted - October 24 2006 : 02:21:24 AM
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As far as help goes, it would be nice to have a few active members become moderators. Mods can move posts to appropriate categories, lock out nasty people (it's only a matter of time) and other little goodies. As the forums get more and more popular it would be nice to know others are looking after the place.
As far as the hoarding goes. I have a theory. We know that the US has an aging population. There is a bubble of older folks who will pass hopefully before any of us do. The market is going to get flooded (gradually, not in a flash) with a large population's collectables. Supply and demand would dictate a buyers market for a while. Of course this is only part of the equation but it does sound sensible to me.
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Posted - October 24 2006 : 10:55:19 AM
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Regarding the passing generation:
Any friend, fan or member of the Train Collectors Association (TCA) knows precisely of what NYC speaks. Part of the current glut--and subsequent sometimes-precipitous fall in price--of some of the fancy new "old" Lionel and MTH O scale made at the height of the "geezer" Toy Train explosion is due to the death of a generation. While the HO scale "memory purchasers", thanks to a multitude of sales venues heretofore unknown in the hobby, have access to a relatively large collective repository of "hi-rail" train set HO, their growing collecting instincts are driving prices currently upward. Still, I don't see the same cycle of: neglect, attention, collection of original, copying of original, happening in train set HO. There is, as NYC and others here have sadly pointed out, a dwindling pool of interested young bodies, and more importantly, a virtual mountain of neglected, often NOS material fodder.
Collect your memories, sure. And get 'em in multiple; get 'em to salvage; get 'em to try your hand at the sadly dying art of detail modeling. Get 'em, above all, to run.
HO Hi-rail is exactly like Standard gauge of the 1920s, it just takes up less space: it is a home-grown, vividly rendered, innovative and often brilliantly executed kinetic art form than demands motion to impart maximum enjoyment.
MagAc
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Posted - October 24 2006 : 10:05:09 PM
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Magnolia, The "glut" you speak of with O gauge 3 rail is driven by more conditions than O gaugers dying off. As far as "new" trains are concerned, a lot of it has to do with manufacturers competing for the same train dollar as they saturate the market with the same stuff. Lionel and MTH in particular. One does a Espee GS-4 and it's a sell out. The other has to do one too and poof - blowout sale. Another thing they do is they utilize tooling as much as they can by putting ho-hum paint schemes on equipment. Stuff only a few roadname loyalists buy. First they do a green GG1 and it's a sell out. A Tuscan GG1 follows and it sells well too. OK, let's do Amtrack in silver. Poof - blowout sale. Dealers who lack train genes often have trouble sorting it all out when trying to figure out how much of what to stock and often end up stuck with it all. Another condition causing the glut is "new" trains become dated within five years as the same engines get re-issued with improved command control and sounds. First generation MTH engines are getting 30 cents on the dollar. Oil prices have cut into people's budgets drastically as well as people spend what a nice boxcar costs filling up their tanks which is what is causing the most recent downswing.
Declining TCA numbers have more to do with people coming to the O gauge hobby as operators where the TCA is more focused on collecting vintage trains and researching the history of vintage trains. Something I enjoy a lot. I know of many serious O gaugers who don't belong to a club or subsribe to a magazine so statistics are rather blurred I think.
Postwar Lionel prices have dropped and it has a lot to do with my second paragragh. People ditching postwar for new stuff. There was a time you could write "Lionel" on a napkiin and sell it. Not so anymore. In the late 1990's the quality and running characteristics of new trains surpassed that of postwar trains. That's when people began really ditching postwar for new stuff. Postwar still has a big place in my heart but I do like some of the new stuff. The recently announced Atlas Trainman O gauge RSD-15 Gator is a must have. Personally, I am happy to see postwar has come down to more reasonable levels as there is a lot of stuff still on my wish list. Stuff that was unobtainable for me ten years ago.
The golden rule for me when I buy anything train is I never look back. I do not keep records of what I spent. I do draw on a budget that flexes and try to buy smart and all. But, after the sale is final, it's get on the floor, smell the ozone, and to hell with real world economics, collecting philosophies and all that jazz.
John Long
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Posted - October 27 2006 : 4:53:52 PM
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| It took 11 months before we attained 1000 posts on this forum. For this month of October we have already eclipsed 1000 for the month. Luvin it!
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Posted - June 21 2020 : 10:09:56 PM
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Always will have steam to its last turn. Fourteen years and counting.
Reaching fifteen year mark. Full steam ahead. Thanks Todd.
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