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 Posted - January 15 2021 : 9:23:24 PM
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Found one at an estate sale and trying to find any information on it, like when it was introduced, was it popular, why does it run slow and how can I fix it.
Thanks for the help
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Posted - January 15 2021 : 10:27:55 PM
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Someone gotta know. Sounds pretty rare. If it’s tender drive, that’s something I’d pass on,
As that was kind of jenky. If it’s like their rugged Pacific, that’s a motor in boiler drive and @ good deal.
I bumped a thread regarding a Mantua Pacif Crescent, look under LOTW and scroll down.
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18542
Edited by - Chops124 on January 16 2021 04:31:20 AM
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Posted - January 15 2021 : 10:34:18 PM
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I don't know how slow you mean, but pictures I've seen of that engine had it with the small motor with the worm mounted right on the motor shaft. If so, that's not a real slow drive. It might need cleaning and lubrication.
If it has a bigger open frame motor back in the firebox and cab connected by flexible tubing to a gearbox, that's the "Power Drive" version and those are kind of slow by design but loaded with torque.
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Posted - January 16 2021 : 6:21:57 PM
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A couple more things occur to me. Being more than average collectible, it may have been a shelf queen so there might be some hardened grease in the gears and driver bearings. If so, that would slow it down. Cleaning that out and putting new grease in would loosen it up.
The other thing is the motor magnet. If it's weak, that would make the motor run faster when not under load, but if it was weak enough, it might run slower under load. That would make it run hot. If everything moves freely, and the motor heats up excessively, see if the magnet seems kind of wimpy. It can be replaced by a neodymium magnet.
I usually use a 1/2 x 1/2 x 1/4" magnet with the poles through a 1/2" dimension. The poles have to be vertical in the motor, not turned sideways. If the motor runs backward, flip the magnet end for end. These magnets can be put in and taken out, but the original magnet will be weakened by removing it from the motor, so only take the old one out if you're sure you plan to replace it.
Here's a source: https://www.kjmagnetics.com/
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Posted - January 17 2021 : 12:05:16 AM
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To my knowledge, three versions of the Tyco/Mantua 4-6-2 Crescent were produced.
The first is the early/mid 60s version, this was a dark green variety. Cab #1396 (as it was for all of these models). These were paired with the Southern "Crescent" passenger coaches. These locos are pretty rare, most go for at least $100 if not much more.
The second is the brown box era (70s) version with the green pilot. By this time, the passenger coaches were no longer offered, and these were typically sold as locomotive only ie not in a train set.
The third is very similar to the second version except that it was a black pilot. These were also carried on to Mantua's line in the 80s and 90s. Both versions are fairly common and normally go for around $30 - $80.
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Posted - January 17 2021 : 09:27:47 AM
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Thanks to everyone that replied. The train I have is green with a tender and is in the Brown Tyco Box. I think this train has been in storage for years and that is why it doesn't run well. Not sure I feel comfortable taking in apart, I haven't had much luck doing that in the past.
Stay Safe and Well
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Posted - January 17 2021 : 09:43:09 AM
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Finally figured out how to add a photo, hope this helps with the ID
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Posted - January 18 2021 : 01:09:33 AM
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| Yep, that would be the second version (with the green pilot)
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