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Thanks Brian, I got it up and running. Took me a few trials, but I got it.
Looks like YouTube found a way to move people into paying for the
formerly free YouTube video editor.

Yes, it is a Hodge Podge. On day 1 of Amtrak they were running a
little bit of everything- Santa Fe bi-levels (Fleischmann), Penn
Central this, Amtrak that, Budd RDC's pressed into coach service,
GG1's, you name it. 1976 was a hodge podge time. Up was down,
down was up and railroads were circling the drain, especially in the
Northeast. 1970's were definitely the year of Hodge Podge.

I worked a bit on the video, and found this new video cutter is a bit more
efficient than the old one, but the fifty sound tracks available are
pretty lame. Well, here it is, thanks for the support!!
https://youtu.be/nyaO0rh8aWs

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I picked up an AHM GG-1 in Amtrak livery today at a model railway show in Birmingham (English West Midlands). £28 GBP or just over $37USD. Condition is very good, but unboxed and it runs well.

It is my third GG-1, my other two are both boxed and marked Mehano - One made in Yugoslavia, the other more recent now says Slovenia. Both of the others have twin bogie drive. One with flexible shafts the other with two motors. But this new one is different again.....

It has noticeably different running gear mouldings from the other two and in particular the plate under one bogie is bulged for the gears and it is single bogie drive. It is marked Rivarossi - Made in Italy for AHM.

So can someone help me understand what I have? Is this the same spec as the famously expensive Rivarossi one, or is this a lower spec for AHM? Single bogie drive or not, I think this is great value for $35 USD

James

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quote:
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So can someone help me understand what I have? Is this the same spec as the famously expensive Rivarossi one, or is this a lower spec for AHM? Single bogie drive or not, I think this is great value for $35 USD

James

Originally posted by jamesday@btinternet.com - November 26 2017 :  4:06:14 PM



I always thought that AHM simply was an importer of Rivarossi and didn't have a lower spec, but I will let others chime in on this. What I do know is that Rivarossi did change their motor from a larger square motor to a slightly smaller round motor at some point in the 1960s. Both were 3-pole motors.

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the AHM GG's were made by Rivarossi, with some changes/ improvements over time.
The Yugoslavian and Slovenian built models were made by Mehano for IHC. The name of the country changed, the Mehano plant stayed in the same place.
It is important to remember that AHM, or IHC, never made anything. All of their merchandise was sourced elsewhere.
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That's most interesting, I often wondered about these odd
Eastern European countries of origin. Mystery explained!
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Thanks Guys,

Most helpful indeed. Yes as has been pointed out Yugoslavia began to break up in 1991 and Slovenia declared independence, which is a helpful dateline.

What I would like to know is if there is any tooling shared between the AHM and Mehano vesions as the body looks much the same, although there are some chassis differences.

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The AHM version was created and produced by Rivarossi and always had deep European flanges.

The Mehano (IHC) version was originally created by PEMCO in Hong Kong, and it had a pancake motor (similar to what Bachmann had in the 1980s). Mehano used the shell and developed their own power drive for the model. The Mehano model has flanges that are not as deep as the Rivarossi model.
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That's interesting, Redwoods. I read somewhere that Pemco was
made up of disgruntled ex-Tyco designers. I have a Pemco unit,
and it works astonishly well, what with its PT motor.
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quote:
That's interesting, Redwoods. I read somewhere that Pemco was
made up of disgruntled ex-Tyco designers. I have a Pemco unit,
and it works astonishly well, what with its PT motor.

Originally posted by Chops124 - November 29 2017 :  8:28:33 PM



I agree. I have a Pemco 2-6-0 with a PT motor in the tender and it also works well, as long as the bearings are properly lubricated. It works really well with a DCC decoder and is one of my favorite engines to run.
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