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Posted - October 14 2017 : 11:16:58 PM
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Starting this off early, here's mine. a 95% complete Gilbert Hudson. My first piece of Gilbert HO. Got for $30 from my local flea market "guy" with a bunch of other stuff (see Flea Market Finds)
A kid was actually looking at this, I grabbed it (he wasn't there at the moment). He was wondering about it, but wanted more RTR. A broken drawbar screw and lack of a pilot truck makes this a bit less than RTR.
So I got it, lol She's also got a smoke unit in it.
So I need to drill and tap the drawbar hole in the frame... Anyone have a spare pilot truck so I can get this old girl on the rails?
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Posted - October 14 2017 : 11:35:15 PM
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Execellent locomotive! Those drivers look like they're in really good shape.
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 08:34:17 AM
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just had it out for annual running and clean,tenshodo great northern c-1 0-8-0,sweet runner,ken
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 12:19:54 PM
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Like stealing candy from a baby, eh, Dan? Heh, heh, heh. If it was me I'dve just given the brat a sharp elbow in the ribs! Well, this unique piece by Bachmann, I snagged of eBay for only 2 bucks fifty cents. What is this bizarre semi-pantograph on the roof, and did this unit ever exist??
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 1:16:42 PM
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quote:
Like stealing candy from a baby, eh, Dan? Heh, heh, heh. If it was me I'dve just given the brat a sharp elbow in the ribs! Well, this unique piece by Bachmann, I snagged of eBay for only 2 bucks fifty cents. What is this bizarre semi-pantograph on the roof, and did this unit ever exist??
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â October 15 2017Â :Â 12:19:54 PM
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The E60CF did indeed exist but they were only used on the Black Mesa and Lake Powell RR. It had a pantograph, just like the passenger version, except that they only had one instead of two. Your model is missing a piece of the pantograph. You might look at the Bachmann parts store to see if you can get a replacement.
http://www.trainweb.org/southwestshorts/bmlp.html
The Bachmann model is a faithful reproduction of the prototype expect for the roadnames they chose (Santa Fe and Chessie). I must admit though that I do like the Santa Fe version a lot.
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 2:43:53 PM
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Well that is another new piece of information for me. Thanks, I enjoyed the post. I can get a pantograph without too much trouble from the Bachmann part store, I am sure. I don't have any SF stuff, even though I am in the heart of former ATSF country. I might leave it as is, go to PC, or maybe even take a shot at the BL&MP.
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 8:29:19 PM
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quote:
The E60CF did indeed exist but they were only used on the Black Mesa and Lake Powell RR. It had a pantograph, just like the passenger version, except that they only had one instead of two. Your model is missing a piece of the pantograph. You might look at the Bachmann parts store to see if you can get a replacement.
http://www.trainweb.org/southwestshorts/bmlp.html
The Bachmann model is a faithful reproduction of the prototype expect for the roadnames they chose (Santa Fe and Chessie). I must admit though that I do like the Santa Fe version a lot.
Originally posted by Redwoods - October 15 2017 : 1:16:42 PM
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um you forgot the one that Bachmann made that I wants! THE ROCK!!
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 8:51:22 PM
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Oooooh, that would look in Bankruptcy Blue.
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 10:06:16 PM
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I was looking for a four wheel lead truck for my latest gaff, and found this. It might not be practical what with customs duties, but take a look:
New message from: choochoocityseller (4,297Red Star) HERES THE PICS
You'll have to look him up on eBay.
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Posted - October 15 2017 : 10:36:15 PM
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Buss, the Rock one was an E60CP (dual cab). Chops, the only pantos on the parts store is the double one for the E60CP. Might have to look on eBay.
On the other hand, I'd be happy to take that Electric off your hands :P
Would a 4 wheel truck even fit? It's a Mikado isn't it? ;)
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 12:45:58 AM
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quote:Buss, the Rock one was an E60CP (dual cab). Chops, the only pantos on the parts store is the double one for the E60CP. Might have to look on eBay.
On the other hand, I'd be happy to take that Electric off your hands :P
Would a 4 wheel truck even fit? It's a Mikado isn't it? ;)
Originally posted by DanMacKÂ -Â October 15 2017Â :Â 10:36:15 PM
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I think the Burlington Northern was too?
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 12:54:54 AM
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quote:My first piece of Gilbert HO. |
DanMacK, Congrats on your 1st Gilbert HO. Their steam locos have always been my favorite. FYI, eBay seller tgcards1 usually has a few pilots in reserve.
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 03:12:02 AM
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Brian, thanks and thanks for the heads up. I messaged gilbertHO as well. The loco needs a pilot truck, only found one and it was sold... lol
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 04:07:26 AM
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@DanMack
Nice looking Hudson! Don't forget, since it's an American Flyer you have both smoke and synchronized "choo choo" sound to boot!
RE: the missing pilot truck:
Port Lines Hobby Supplies sells Gilbert HO parts, and their website shows the pilot truck for the NYC Hudson in stock.
Part #: X9846 (ID: 7165) -- PILOT TRUCK, HUDSON ; 4-wheel; orig
To find their HO parts you have to go to this URL:
http://64.251.10.24/~worldofw/cgi-bin/shopplcom.pl/SID=222322194/page=index2-new.html
Then navigate (via the menu items on left) to: American Flyer Parts > Parts G-L > HO by A.C. Gilbert
rfgco.com has original Gilbert parts diagram online for the Hudson here:
http://www.rfgco.com/catalog/hohud_ex.gif
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 08:10:58 AM
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This week’s Loco of the Week is off to a great start and it is only Monday morning. Dans first Gilbert Hudson is a beauty and looks to be good enough to last another 50+ years. Gilbert really built them well. Ken’s great Northern 0-8-0 is so full of detail it looks real. Redwoods Bachmann E60CF is rarely seen. How do I add to this weeks stuff? I’ll have to look around and see what I got. frank
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 6:47:57 PM
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Dan, I bought the wrong %$!@$#@ truck. I glanced at some other item and thought I was looking at my item and bought the four wheel truck without thinking it through, just a snap decision. Then Timewarp notes my goof and I run out and snatch a correct two wheel pilot. I could've just returned the thing, but you know, I don't want to be one of those annoying eBay buyers.
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 6:55:38 PM
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Chops, I'd love to trade you out of the E60CF. Any chance of that?
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 7:08:00 PM
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quote:Dan, I bought the wrong %$!@$#@ truck. I glanced at some other item and thought I was looking at my item and bought the four wheel truck without thinking it through, just a snap decision. Then Timewarp notes my goof and I run out and snatch a correct two wheel pilot. I could've just returned the thing, but you know, I don't want to be one of those annoying eBay buyers.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â October 16 2017Â :Â 6:47:57 PM
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Could be divine providence. Someday, maybe you'll be glad you have that pilot truck. For example, a flaming dirigible could jettison a Mantua Pacific over your house and it could break its pilot truck on the landing and all it'd take to fix it is a new pilot truck. You never can tell about the future.
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 7:50:12 PM
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quote:just had it out for annual running and clean,tenshodo great northern c-1 0-8-0,sweet runner,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - October 15 2017 : 08:34:17 AM
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May I ask as to why the boiler is square near the cab?
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 8:15:19 PM
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quote: quote:just had it out for annual running and clean,tenshodo great northern c-1 0-8-0,sweet runner,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - October 15 2017 : 08:34:17 AM
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May I ask as to why the boiler is square near the cab?
Originally posted by microbusss - October 16 2017 : 7:50:12 PM
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Belpaire firebox, Pennsy had em too
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 10:00:22 PM
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Here's my LOTW offering:
The twin Tyco D&H Sharks, now in my roster! Check out "My roster of Tyco locomotives" under "Motive Power," for more info on how I obtained these Sharks.
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 10:45:52 PM
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Nifty setup RP!
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Posted - October 16 2017 : 10:47:54 PM
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quote: Belpaire firebox, Pennsy had em too
Originally posted by chevelle454Â -Â October 16 2017Â :Â 8:15:19 PM
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& that big long thing under the cab is a air brake tank of some sort?
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Posted - October 17 2017 : 11:03:33 AM
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"Could be divine providence. Someday, maybe you'll be glad you have that pilot truck. For example, a flaming dirigible could jettison a Mantua Pacific over your house and it could break its pilot truck on the landing and all it'd take to fix it is a new pilot truck. You never can tell about the future."
That's crazy. Everyone knows dirigibles don't use hydrogen anymore!
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Posted - October 17 2017 : 2:32:21 PM
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Here is my LOTW, a Mantua 311-46 Richmond-Fredericksburg-Potomac Pacific Loco. It didn't run, so I got it for a low price. I removed the old, burnt out motor and put in a motor with neodymium magnets and it runs great.
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Posted - October 17 2017 : 2:47:38 PM
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Awesome locomotives in the thread this week. My Hudson is a 31005 so it has the smoke but it doesn't have the synchronize choo choo, only the 31006 had that apparently. LOL
I join the Gilbert ho group and Doug from portlines pointed me in his Direction so I can get all the parts I need. He has a pilot truck I found the screw and I might get a new drawbars well.
She'll get posted in the Gilbert forum once I get her up and running.
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Posted - October 17 2017 : 6:33:15 PM
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DanMacK,
Glad you got the parts and am looking forward to seeing the revitalized loco. FYI, the #446 has the speaker in the tender. It sounds awesome - hope you are able to add a 31006 or 446 to your collection.
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Posted - October 17 2017 : 9:05:00 PM
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@DanMacK
I don't claim to be an expert on Gilbert HO, but I thought the only difference between the #31005 and #31006 Hudsons was that #31006 had the built-in electric "steam whistle" (actually it sounds more like a horn than a true whistle) while the #31005 was exactly the same as #31006 with the exception of not having the built-in "whistle."
The cylinder shaped thing that makes the choo-choo sound is the thing that making the smoke "puff" on Gilbert locos, so I'm not sure exactly how or why Gilbert would have made a smoke unit without choo-choo, since the choo-choo is really just the result pushing air through a baffle platte that connects to the smoke unit.
However, the choo-choo on the HO Gilberts usually aren't nearly as loud as their "big brother" S scale counterparts, so sometimes it's hard to hear the choo-choo sounds of the HO trains at all, esp. if there's any amount of gear noise (common to older locos that haven't been serviced yet.) Dunno... Maybe some with more knowledge than I have can shine some light on the subject of non-choo-choo AF HO!
The AF S scale Docksider locos were small and thus used a HO choo-choo unit, and you couldn't really hear them chuffing very well at all, unless you had your ear right next to thing, and even then it was a pretty weak chuff! If I remember correctly Gilbert stopped listing "choo choo" as a featture on the S scale Dockside during the 2nd year they made it, although in reality it still had exactly the same HO choo-choo unit in it as was used in the year previous.
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Posted - October 18 2017 : 12:09:00 AM
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@Localoid. The whistle is what I was thinking of, my bad :D
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Posted - October 18 2017 : 05:54:21 AM
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* A Lehigh Valley N-1 class Mikado, the only 2-8-2 camelbacks ever made rides the turntable on the way to a ready track for assignment. frank
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Posted - October 18 2017 : 9:56:56 PM
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Halloween colours...
Mike
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Posted - October 19 2017 : 12:07:57 AM
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My motive power for this week's post is a Mantua C&O F-unit. Needs some work, doesn't want to run yet. MU-2 motor needs some TLC.
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Posted - October 20 2017 : 12:36:28 PM
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This week is my recently acquired and assembled Convertible Switcher. The previous owner has shoved the original paperwork up in the top of the box. I set it up as a 2-6-2. This was a brand new kit.
It is a little stiff (new motor and gear) but runs rather nicely. Still have to do some fine tuning.
It can also be set up as:
0-4-0 0-6-0 2-4-0 2-6-0 2-4-2 2-6-2 0-4-2 0-6-2
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Posted - October 20 2017 : 5:29:22 PM
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My LOTW offering is an early Mantua 2-6-0 Mogul just purchased.
This one has the early pre-WWII tender. This can be seen by the steel sheet metal used in the truck construction and the round water hatch on the top of the tender. The chassis of the locomotive appears to be diecast and not brass like most pre-war moguls I've seen.
Pretty excited to get this one. Of the ~2 dozen Moguls I have, this is only the second one with the complete early pre-war tender I have come across. Going to replace the roof and likely keep this one.
I apologize if there is anyone out here that I outbid to get this.
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Posted - October 20 2017 : 9:10:57 PM
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That's a good lesson Sean regarding the distinctions between the pre-war and later moguls. That would be good submission to www.hoseeker.net . I'm assuming the cab was the same, but the modeler opened up the windows some? Interesting bit about the "stamped" trucks.
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Posted - October 20 2017 : 9:11:47 PM
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That is one fine machine you built there George. How about a video of it chugging around the layout?
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Posted - October 21 2017 : 02:52:09 AM
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As soon as I can get it fine tuned. Still a little rough because it has never been broke in.
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Posted - October 31 2017 : 5:14:12 PM
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