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Posted - June 29 2020 : 09:15:07 AM
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With all the bad luck you have had with things not running, I wouldn't have bought it untested. Especially when you said you paid a lot for it. Well, I hope it fires up!
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Posted - June 29 2020 : 09:47:18 AM
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to my mind the 90s onwards clerestory coaches made by hornby are there best,if you see them grab them the paintwork and details inside and out are brilliant,ken
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New edition to the fleet. This much I know, it is an electric, it is very light, Hornby, and probably dates to around 1970's. I paid a pretty pence for this used model, I hope it works. I do not require more door stops.
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With places like EBay, you gotta be careful in that regard. I always try to buy locos that I know I can fix if they have issues straight out of the box. The only time that wasn’t 100% the case was when I bought an old Piko E44 from 1953. The issue that old girl has (I’ll post photos at some point) is that the magnets on the motor are very weak. I have some ideas on how to fix that to get it running well again, but yeah. The point is to be careful and get things you know you can most likely fix if it’s marked as untested (and even if it has been tested). Those old Triang locos usually don’t require much to get running again unless their motors are burned out. The only reason I don’t have more Triang locos is because the big wheel flanges have issues on my track.
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Posted - June 29 2020 : 7:39:34 PM
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I will try to fire this girl up tonight. I believe I was snookered, not what I ordered to begin with, but sat too long in its box before I opened it to see what was inside. Will update.
Those celestory coaches are magnificent. Would they be classified as Victorian or Eduardian era? I've never seen those before.
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 09:06:44 AM
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hi chops the clerestory coaches started life in the 1870/80s lit by gas,were later modified to electric before being put to pasture,many becoming holiday homes,ken https://www.warwickshirerailways.com/gwr/gwrhj3033.htm
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 09:13:33 AM
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you might also enjoy this video,ken
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 10:04:20 AM
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quote:you might also enjoy this video,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - June 30 2020 : 09:13:33 AM
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Sam's trains is the best!
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 11:27:05 AM
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quote:you might also enjoy this video,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - June 30 2020 : 09:13:33 AM
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Ah, Samstrains. Great guy to watch if you're interested in any particular British 00 gauge loco from the likes of Triang all the way to modern Hornby. He's made some videos on American locos, too, from the likes of Bachmann and Mehano. Love his videos.
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 11:27:07 AM
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Great video, and Sam's baseboard is most innovative. Have you heard anything about the availability of the reissued Hornby Rocket set?
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 11:29:58 AM
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quote:Great video, and Sam's baseboard is most innovative. Have you heard anything about the availability of the reissued Hornby Rocket set?
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I know I haven't. However, I have seen videos of the thing running, and it seems substantially better in nearly every way (especially in terms of running performance) than the original Triang model. I honestly feel like the Triang model was meant more as a novelty to be displayed than something to actually be run considering how poorly they run and the fact that their motors seem to burn out so easily. I definitely want one of Hornby's reissued Rocket sets, though. Love those old style locos.
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 11:33:45 AM
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yes chops all at hornby have sold out,no idea when next lot will be available,dealers bought them all up,i wonder why (greed is one idea,so they can wack up the price already at ÂŁ179 for the dcc ready version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAWYUSq-nk
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 11:53:37 AM
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Guess I'll see if I can back order one. No surprise it sold out.
Anyways, this is the last video I did on British OO, really want to do some more, now the locks in. Ken, please note the Neolithic Catford Urns and AH Peppercorn and rake.
https://youtu.be/z_sYkqHpK60
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Posted - June 30 2020 : 4:09:37 PM
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will do
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Posted - July 05 2020 : 4:02:11 PM
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This is the "blind date." Turns out is a Triang Electra, based on an actual British electric locomotive primarily used in commuter service. Finally switched it on last night, and she runs beautifully. Got lucky!.
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Posted - July 05 2020 : 4:03:16 PM
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Glad to hear it worked out. Looks like a nice engine!
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Posted - July 23 2020 : 7:29:21 PM
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I recently purchased a beautiful Wrenn City of London (made sometime around 1974 to 1980, based on the information I could find online) all the way from across the pond. It came in the box with the little instruction booklet on how to service the loco. It was not particularly cheap, as it was about $140 with shipping (would've been a little less than $100 without shipping), but it is extremely well made and a fairly good runner (although it definitely prefers going at a faster speed). It is also surprisingly serviceable. It's easy to take apart and put back together, and it's also extremely easy to replace parts on the loco. Very well designed. The photos I have here are mostly from the Ebay listing, but the last one is the loco on my display shelf.
Since I've received it, I've cleaned the wheels, pickups, commutator, brushes, and the body of the locomotive, as it was very dusty. I then lubricated all the parts outlined in the manual and made some minor adjustments to improve performance. Now, she runs fairly well around my main layout.
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Posted - July 23 2020 : 9:01:50 PM
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Cool! Wish I could find Japanese locos that didn't break the bank. Same thing for Russian lokies.
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Posted - July 23 2020 : 10:47:12 PM
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Great British electric locomotive, Chops!
Love that Steam Locomotive!
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Posted - July 23 2020 : 11:36:05 PM
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Aye Steven, what a beauty, and a nice classic Wren, at that. You ever get tired of her, just PM your old pal, “Chops...”
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quote:Aye Steven, what a beauty, and a nice classic Wren, at that. You ever get tired of her, just PM your old pal, “Chops...”
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â July 23 2020Â :Â 11:36:05 PM
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Thanks. The hardest part about working on this guy was actually adjusting the little bearing screw on the top of the motor! The way it is now is as close to being good as I can get it in that regard. If you're wondering what I'm talking about, watch this video. The part that goes into what I'm referring to is about 15-16 minutes in onwards.
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Posted - August 09 2020 : 8:08:52 PM
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Retired this Triang Rocket about 30 years ago. It burned up its brushes after about 12 hours of use, and try as I might, repairing it was well nigh impossible.
Sucked it up and lay down 250 clams to import this Hornby reissue. Maybe fire it up tonight.
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Posted - August 09 2020 : 10:04:18 PM
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Even still, your original "Rocket" must be an awesome display piece on the layout. Looks good sitting beside the engine shed.
Can't wait to see the "new" "Rocket" in action.
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Posted - August 09 2020 : 11:13:49 PM
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I confess, I do rather like that photo. Probably see if I can sell the set on eBay as a static display piece.
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Posted - August 10 2020 : 09:37:35 AM
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quote:I confess, I do rather like that photo. Probably see if I can sell the set on eBay as a static display piece.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â August 09 2020Â :Â 11:13:49 PM
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bet I could get my friend to get it running hehe
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Posted - August 11 2020 : 12:32:05 AM
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The Hornby reissued Rocket. Has a DCC plug inside the water barrel. No, after all the things I've read on DCC forums I have decided to abandon DCC for good. Every other post is "...doesn't work..."
I am taking my sweet time braking this in slowly. The couplers are little plastic "chains," and it will take a little gentle flexing before they all settle down and behave. The coaches are so light as to be easily lifted off the rails by the stiffness of the chains, but we are getting things ironed out slowly.
Speaking of slow, this thing has a sweet low speed range. The old Triang, bless her heart, was either full on or full off. I enjoyed it when I could, but she is destined for eBay as a static display piece- I really don't need to accumulate non-working stuff.
I paid up for this little set, but it was worth every penny. It is one of my favorite locomotives of all time, and Hornby really got it right.
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Posted - August 11 2020 : 07:47:29 AM
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It's amazing they can fit a motor in something that small. Truly ingenious.
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Posted - August 11 2020 : 2:56:01 PM
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From everything I've seen, the difference between the new Hornby release and the old Triang loco is the difference between night and day. This new Hornby model, although it's definitely not perfect, is miles ahead of the Triang. Every video I've seen of it shows it running extremely well for its size. Good find, Chops.
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quote:It's amazing they can fit a motor in something that small. Truly ingenious.
Originally posted by BlaxlandAlex3Â -Â August 11 2020Â :Â 07:47:29 AM
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The original Triang was actually in S scale, by the numbers. This to allow the motor into the boiler. The motor, about the size of an N scale motor, was open frame, sort of pressed together and did not perform well.
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Posted - August 30 2020 : 12:47:07 AM
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BLOTW: Oxford Rails Dean Goods.
This got a failing review in "Sam's Trains," an excellent website that gives a thorough and honest appraisal of new model trains, a lot of British stuff, but some American Range. Sam was quite decent about it, however, and gave a second review of this locomotive that worked perfectly. As I have to import this stuff from the UK, my shipping costs are typically $45 and a month or more delay, so returning it would require an additional expenditure of $90 round trip if it is scrum.
Lucky for me, and Sam (on the second attempt), the model worked perfectly out of the box (phew, Batman) and is presently being gently broke in on the Henley layout. It has a perfect speed range, runs slow sweetly, and has detail as good as any brass model. There is even a tiny loop and chain, like the prototype, to attach to the buffer beam. In short, it is every bit a gem, and the Dean Goods is one of my favorite British range locomotives, as it represents a time when steam locomotive technology was really starting to expand.
Check out this back boiler detail!
State of the art: 1883. What a beauty!!
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I love it! That really is some fabulous cab detail!
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That is an amazing locomotive!
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Posted - October 13 2020 : 7:07:41 PM
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quote: Fresh in from the "Doll House" of Glasgow, Scotland (dinkydoll on eBay): a Joeuf D6100 in beautiful condition, with a three set of Joeuf wagons. The treads show very little wear, so hopefully with a decent lubrication she will fire up nicely. The wagons are also Joeuf, my very first, and they are interesting in that while plain, they are sturdy and nicely proportioned- meant to be used by little hands. They also show no tread wear or other damage. Joeuf, was a French company that built sturdy OO French, and also some British, outlines. I believe they were bought out by Hornby.
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Hey, Chops (and everyone else, I guess)! I finally got my hands on one of the Playcraft Jouef D6100 locos on Ebay. I just purchased it a little earlier today for a little more than $20 with shipping and tax.Looking forward to seeing this unique piece of UK model railroading history! They look extremely well made.These pictures I'm about to post are from the Ebay listing, by the way.
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Posted - October 14 2020 : 12:47:23 AM
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Congrats, welcome to the D6100 club! The are fun.
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Posted - October 14 2020 : 07:43:30 AM
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quote: quote:
New edition to the fleet. This much I know, it is an electric, it is very light, Hornby, and probably dates to around 1970's. I paid a pretty pence for this used model, I hope it works. I do not require more door stops.
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â June 29 2020Â :Â 01:01:08 AM
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With places like EBay, you gotta be careful in that regard. I always try to buy locos that I know I can fix if they have issues straight out of the box. The only time that wasn’t 100% the case was when I bought an old Piko E44 from 1953. The issue that old girl has (I’ll post photos at some point) is that the magnets on the motor are very weak. I have some ideas on how to fix that to get it running well again, but yeah. The point is to be careful and get things you know you can most likely fix if it’s marked as untested (and even if it has been tested). Those old Triang locos usually don’t require much to get running again unless their motors are burned out. The only reason I don’t have more Triang locos is because the big wheel flanges have issues on my track.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â June 29 2020Â :Â 7:19:11 PM
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Well Chops here is your doublended electric with its original name and number. frank
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That’s a stone cold beauty, Frank. Never saw an electric I didn’t love. 💕
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I finally received my D6100 Jouef loco this morning. It's absolutely bizarre. There's this giant can motor which connects to these strange carousel looking gears on either end, which then turn to turn another gear at the bottom, which in turn turns the other gears on the wheels, moving the loco. It is one of the most efficient locomotives I've ever seen, as it puts out practically no current draw at all. It's also extremely free rolling. You just slightly push it and it rolls. It picks up power using 4 brass cylinder brushes (two for each axle, picking up power from one bogie only). The way the brushes spring is by some brass bars directly above the brushes which press down on them due to being screwed into place. The power goes from those brass bars up directly into the chassis itself, where it gets transmitted into the motor. The buffers on the model are not original, as the original loco had only flat "buffers" that were molded in. These buffers on my model are not only well put on, they are also sprung!The Triang-style couplers on the loco date this to around the early 1960's, meaning that it is nearly 60 years old. It's a fairly well made engine, I will say that much. The running performance is surprisingly good for an engine of its era. Much better than I was expecting, for sure.I will say that it does seem to be a bit finicky when it first runs (even after lubrication and full cleaning), but it smoothes out extremely quickly.
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I just love my D6100s. They remind me of older Tyco, British style. I'm going to spray out the contacts with some electrical cleaner, that crazy design appears to be the root of all evil with these critters, or at least I hope. The motor, yeah, is big as a cabbage, and nice solid metal gears that won't split!!
Seeing this post, I made yet another attempt to get the seller, in France, to drop his price a tad, on this set. Why this set, I ask myself. What earthly use do I have for this thing? Don't I have enough projects stacked up to keep me busy for the next ten years? What if it is a dud? Heaven knows it won't be the first time. It is just.so.quirky.Must.have. And, I have a little cashola in the PayPal account from the Chopomania sale. Believe you/me, that stuff went out the door at fire sale prices, like the Busy Bee Department store. Lost my lease, and my shirt. But time to recycle the moolah.
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Ah, recycling the moolah, I've got something arriving tomorrow that I've bought with the money earned from selling stuff!
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That looks like an interesting set, Chops. Go for it.
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Got a set of these three "Blood and Custard" coaches for the Hornby Electra. The Electra is a grand old piece, but is cranky and doesn't pull terribly well. I selected these coaches because they are light and roll pretty easily, which will help Old Cranky out.
I thought long and hard about the TransCon set, but decided I really don't need more vintage cranky stuff that might or might not work. I've had several vintage, and new, British items completely fail out on me at no small loss. I tried to negotiate with the seller, who is in France, and he won't budge a Euro on the cost, but has had it posted for better part of a year.
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Posted - November 07 2020 : 10:00:55 PM
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Looks nice, Chops!
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Posted - December 13 2020 : 4:45:31 PM
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Still got my foot in two canoes. Finally got these fabulous Third Class Open Carriages from Hornby. The back story on the prototypes is that they were quickly done away with as passengers, unaccustomed to any mode of conveyance greater than 3 mph, like an ox cart, frequently fell over the sides as they bounced along at 20 to 25 mph and ladies would loose their hats in the slipstream, gallant fellow lunging for them, and over they would go. True story. On imagines cinders would also be quite problematic, as they often were on American counterparts. To clarify, these coaches are first generation British.
Check out the coupling chains.
Then I picked up a rake of these vintage Triang coaches, not typical passenger coaches, I think they had something to do with parcels service, and for the Southern Railway (of Britain) not because I had a gap in my roster, but simply because they are different and vintage and British, and from a stateside seller, so I didn't get reamed for shipping costs. One the carriages from Hornby I got to pay a hot price, although they are exquisite, but then got put back in the oven to be incinerated by tariffs and shipping charges.
Seriously, does anyone know what the function of this type of coach was?
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Posted - December 13 2020 : 10:37:03 PM
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Nice coaches, Chops! They look great on Henley.
I too wonder what function those cars served.....
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Posted - December 27 2020 : 11:54:45 PM
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My British friends tell me that the green coaches above were used for parcel deliveries, much like UPS delivery vans, but delivered to the depot, and from there delivered locally.
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Posted - January 19 2021 : 6:33:24 PM
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A High Wheeler simmers, ready to take Britains to all points on the compass.
The Lord of the Isles, having been refitted from broad to standard gauge, readies to leave in the evening mist.
Chops's Rail Tours always ready to go on the hunt for Nessie.
Almost a century later, Henley Station is still a busy place. Efficient rail service speeds people in comfort and safety.
The Numidia Salt Mine has retrieved a whopper. In ancient times, Rome used to send convicts to labor and to perish in the Salt Mines of Numidia. This is a pun on the workplace.
The peaked roof of the specialized salt wagon sheds English rains.
Britain was a Roman province for nearly 400 years. Vast amounts of Roman artifacts, including these mosaics, turn up on a regular basis.
A thousand years later, majestic castles dotted the land, replete with knights in armor. Here a re-enactment takes place in Castle Henley, of a jousting tournament.
The British landmass was once at the equator, and is packed with prehistoric fossils. Here a triceratops emerges from deep time.
Fresh fruits and vegetables from the verdant farmland.
Goes well with a leg of mutton.
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Posted - January 20 2021 : 08:24:49 AM
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Nice photos, Chops!
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Posted - January 20 2021 : 10:56:43 AM
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Wonderful collection Jeff.
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Posted - January 24 2021 : 4:30:09 PM
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Holiday Makers in Henley, 1927, on the hunt to find Nessie.
Hornby High Wheeler taking on boarders.
Chops's Loch Ness Watching Tours leaving Henley Station, pulled by a Hornby Terrier.
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Posted - January 24 2021 : 8:07:47 PM
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if you need another of those gated crossing hit me up I have 2 new ones
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Posted - January 24 2021 : 10:05:08 PM
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Cool, Chops! Love the "Schweppes" ad on the double-decker bus.
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