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One of my favorite engines. Weighs a ton [:D]
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Hi NYC,

I see no opening for a front coupler. Is that standard on a metal shark powered unit?

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That's a great question that would be better answered by someone other than me. I think the one pictured here is an unusual one. All of the kits from the 50's, powered or not, seem to have the open pilot.

I think we need to call Ray M. or Loopy in on this one to shed a little light.
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I think it's standard on that particular shell version. Also note the unusual mounting for the rear truck, using two black plastic tabs screwed into cutouts in the shell frame. I have seen a few metal sharks that share this combination of features.

Also remember that the plastic sharks have a closed pilot as well... modified with a slot to add the MNRA coupler.

The very first releases were open pilots - wide at that to accept a hook and loop system.
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Thansk Tony. Also note that this UP Shark has fully closed steps. I've seen the bare metal kits with both rungs open and others with just the bottom rung open. This went through many iterations for sure.
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The paint scheme design is interesting...it's curious how many of these early HO-scale locos had paint jobs that didn't bother in many respects to even attempt to come close to looking authentic.

One of the better odd examples is that bulky Marx Geep that was sold in UP yellow and gray with red lettering...that read A.T. & S.F.?!?

Very Cool Shark!

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Aaah, a very, very nice TYCO Shark from circa 1959! This same model, but in a different road name, carried over into the 1960 Tyco catalog. (see Dr Cook’s resource page at http://tycotrain.tripod.com/locomotives/id6.html). The black tabs that Circlez speaks of indicate a gimbaled drive. Besides the closed pilot other characteristics are plastic horns, an elongated slot in the roof above the motor and the name Mantua-Tyco cast in the under side of the roof. The common Mantua 215 kit version had none of these items.

From the NYC’s photo I get the impression that this is a factory paint job. Note the flash around the window openings, on the steps, around the lower edge of the body, all characteristics of the factory. The blurred masking looks like factory. And the kicker is the unpainted rivets on the truck side plates. The factory painted side plates on the front but not the back before attaching them. However, the paint is unmarred, looks like it was painted yesterday not fifty odd years past.

A very nice piece, Todd! Thanks for sharing. Made this old man’s day![:)]

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The condition of the finish is just incredible, congratulations of finding a pristine example. I have two I picked up several years ago, but they look nowhere near as nice. You have a time machine, perhaps? :)

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Hi All,

Thanks for the info. Very interesting.

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Hey all.I have one of these that is the same as the one at the top of the site.The truck frames were not painted the body color.They were a silver paint(dull) I have owned this since 1959 when I was 10 years old.
I think it is a fantastic paint job!!
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quote:
One of my favorite engines. Weighs a ton [:D]


Originally posted by New_York_Central - May 27 2007 :  12:34:15 AM



Classic style.

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I have one too!
& do want the matching B unit!


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