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I've recently started working on building a sandhouse from scratch, working from plans in "The Boys' Book of Model Railroading". Here's a photo:

The clapboards have progressed considerably since the photo was taken, I'm actually mostly done with that part.

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Cool project Zelda. I like your recycled building materials.
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I like that old fashioned resourceful model railroading.
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I've recently started working on building a sandhouse from scratch, working from plans in "The Boys' Book of Model Railroading". Here's a photo:

The clapboards have progressed considerably since the photo was taken, I'm actually mostly done with that part.

Originally posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman - March 03 2016 :  03:05:27 AM



ZTS:

Nice work. That's a good book, one of the first MRR books I ever owned. My dad, who was into Lionel when he was a boy, had gotten it for me at a used book sale.

Another one by the same author (Raymond F Yates), which concentrates heavily on structures that can be built from common materials, is HOW TO IMPROVE YOUR MODEL RAILROAD. I recommend seeking it out!

I also like that you are using cereal box cardboard. I built many, many buildings this very same way, often following the procedures in those Yates books. It's a good, low-cost material.

As more model shops close, and as costs for materials and models grow higher, we are seeing a return to the creative improvisation of the distant past. Now if only we could get the magazines to acknowledge this fact, perhaps they would be able to find content to fill their shrinking pagecounts...


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Yeah, maybe if Model Railroader would leave the shilling of high-price Walthers, Kato, and Intermountain to the advertisements instead of letting their staff shill too, they would get enough subscribers that the magazine wouldn't be half comprised of ads. Would probably also help if the manufacturers stopped focusing almost exclusively on the rivet-counting whiners with big checkbooks and got back to cranking out the cheap stuff that would be gobbled up en masse by those of us with more modest budgets and who are more concerned with running trains.

Cereal box cardboard is great. It's stiff enough to make a model building's wall, it can be cut easily, it can be glued easily, and we buy and go through a lot of cereal so I have a plentiful supply without spending a dime.

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Yeah, maybe if Model Railroader would leave the shilling of high-price Walthers, Kato, and Intermountain to the advertisements instead of letting their staff shill too, they would get enough subscribers that the magazine wouldn't be half comprised of ads. Would probably also help if the manufacturers stopped focusing almost exclusively on the rivet-counting whiners with big checkbooks and got back to cranking out the cheap stuff that would be gobbled up en masse by those of us with more modest budgets and who are more concerned with running trains.

Cereal box cardboard is great. It's stiff enough to make a model building's wall, it can be cut easily, it can be glued easily, and we buy and go through a lot of cereal so I have a plentiful supply without spending a dime.

Originally posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman - March 04 2016 :  12:39:45 PM



Preach it brother Z!

You’ve got to check out the work of E. L. Moore, like pronto. The man spoke your language. And even at the time he was going against the grain, questioning the accepted wisdom.
Read all about him here if you haven’t already:

http://30squaresofontario.blogspot.com/search/label/E%20L%20Moore%20Files
And in the press it's not just the promotion of expensive models themselves, it's the promotion of a whole expensive "play system" that promotes the consumption of even more.

The staging-yard dependent, come-and-go layout portraying a stream of traffic DEPENDS on storing the large part of your expensive models out of sight, out of mind. It depends on having extra trackwork that isn’t used for visual effect. And you’ve just got to have multiples of your “big engine”, strings of cars with different numbers. The massively modeled industries with low compression. Just recently there was a big room-filling ‘switching road’ in MR that had less traffic destinations than the famous Atlas Southside Connecting.

This uses more space. This uses more material. But is this any more realistic?

We’re all railfans now. We watch cars, we look for small differences. But when we’re running trains, we’re crew. Does a brakeman care if he’s pulling the same cut lever on the same boxcar every day? Sometimes in real life he is, there are a lot of small car fleets that basically shuttle back and forth between plants. Does an engineer know the acreage of the plant she’s switching, and does a conductor care at all about a boxcar’s paint scheme or exact-size rivets, or anything at all beyond the reporting marks and number?

The new way is a show, but the old way was a game. And we can still play the game. The little industries, scaled-down, are a distorted representation, just like the simplified graphics in Sid Meier’s Railroad Tycoon, but they represent the heart of the matter better than any staging-driven floor show: getting things, and people, from one place to another.



And that’s what this is really about.


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Well, I would personally take the perspective that when running a model layout we're both crew and railfan, and that doing it as both show and game can be fun. (Example: layouts like the Reverend W. Awdry built, in which offsite staging was the minority of the ltrack and was used to save space while simulating things getting from place to place even in a 4x6 space). But even from a railfan perspective, when you watch a train in action I think that you're going to be paying more attention to how many cars, what kinds, and where they're going or where they came from if you can see it.... Regardless, the press' increasing slant of "The expensive way is the only right way", no suggestions for cheap models or scratchbuilding techniques in staff articles.. ugh. And again, made worse by expensive models increasingly becoming the only models available new (And the people who insist on manufacturers making cars be available with umpteen road numbers already on 'em because they can't be arsed to put on decals)..

Regarding the house, I've finished the clapboards, should have a photo up soon

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And here it is:

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What did you use for the siding?
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Paper, cut into strips a scale foot wide
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Cool. What do you plan on using for the roof material? I found an article in a magazine
that showed how to make shingles from a Reader's Digest magazine. Tried it and the results
really looked good, especially after I painted them black and then weathered them.
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I plan on cutting the shingles out of construction paper. Should give the right look.


Got the sandhouse painted. Now I just need to do the roof, the conveyors, and the interior. Oh, and the sand bunker of course. Can't forget the sand bunker.

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Man, that is starting to look real good.
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Why, thank you.
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Zelda, you should just BUY a sandhouse!

I'll be the rent you went out and dug a very
deep hole with a shovel that you hand forged
to mine your own turquoise and ground it
up in a carved stone mortar and pestal to
make your own paint that you diluted
with turpentine that you tapped from a
pine tree that you planted as a seedling
40 years ago.

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No, I just bought a bottle of Apple Barrel paint at a yard sale :P
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What do you plan on using for the roof? I need some ideas for some missing roofs on some buildings I've got.
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Peter, read the first line of the post with the picture of the painted building.
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I don' see it.
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I like that old fashioned resourceful model railroading.

Originally posted by scsshaggy - March 03 2016 :  8:47:02 PM


Being a shake-the-box kind of guy myself, this is pretty amazing stuff. When is
the next installment, Zelda?

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Next installment is whenever I get around to finishing the shingles.
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Zelda, it's been two weeks now. Why don't you
just go out and BUY some?

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I was preoccupied with school crap and the Pinkcific
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Schoolkrap. You teach or studying? Why not just
buy your degree from University of Haiti, like
I did?
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Studyling. And because even if I had the money to do that my mom would axe-murder and/or disown me.
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