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Hi people,


I just bought this locomotive... I know only that it's undecorated and not much more.

It does not appear to have been run much.



I do not know what railroads had these, nor do I know what it's true value is.


I saw one of the newer models/kits on Ebay for at least $100... but that was for the 2-8-0 camelbacks.


Please fill me in on what you know about this locomotive, before I tell you how much I paid for it.

Best, John
p.s. It runs quite smoothly.

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Clearly built up from a Mantua kit, otherwise I got nuthin'. Looks sharp, tho.
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In 2 payments of $35, I'm paying $70 total.

Is that a good deal?

John

p.s. Sorry if this post is in the wrong category.

I don't have a one track mind. It depends on the turn-out.
"I love your catenary!"
Is that a power-trip or just another pick-up line?

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There's a Reading version on eBay right now that's up to $52. I don't know if it's a good deal or not... Frank probably knows the going rate.
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Well I paid $60 for my 2-8-2 camelback, some friends on here said that was a good deal. I believe the 4-6-2 version is rarer. Urs looks to be a former kit i love it
I buy, repair, and collect
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Anyone else have information on this locomotive, prototype and HO scale?

Thanks to those who respond.

John

I don't have a one track mind. It depends on the turn-out.
"I love your catenary!"
Is that a power-trip or just another pick-up line?
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the only prototype photo i found was this
a lehigh valley so theres an idea

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quote:
the only prototype photo i found was this
a lehigh valley so theres an idea

Originally posted by SCVR66 - July 08 2012 :  12:41:20 AM



That's just wonderful! I had just bought, last week, an oddball wide-vision caboose which is decaled for the Lehigh Valley Railroad, oddball because I didn't have anything else representing it's purpose, and that the LHS dealer doesn't like U.S. roads. He always reduces the price against the same quality Canadian marked rollingstock!

Sheesh! That's too funny!

Thank you very much, SCVR66!

John

I don't have a one track mind. It depends on the turn-out.
"I love your catenary!"
Is that a power-trip or just another pick-up line?

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Haha that is funny!
No problem at all! Glad to be if service

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"I love it when a plan comes together!"
George Peppard

Here's the object in question...
Then following query...
Then Prototype and Scale Model... (the proof of the pudding)
And then the caboose bought a week previously...

/tyco/forum/uploaded/Zebrails/20120708044940_Three_Camels.jpg

Q: Who What When Where How?
A: Here in the TYCO Forum.
Locomotive Research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camelback_locomotive
Railroad Research: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehigh_Valley_Railroad

The arrow points to the essentially matching boiler piping from prototype to scale model molding.
I do see that the bell may need to be moved forward the cab.

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I don't have a one track mind. It depends on the turn-out.
"I love your catenary!"
Is that a power-trip or just another pick-up line?

Edited by - zebrails on July 08 2012 05:07:05 AM
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John ; The Pacific Camelback, Lehigh Valley is the only company that had them. The Valley call them the K1 class as they were there first pacific type. They were used on the Black Diamond Express. Original numbers were 2000 series up to 2008. The numbers were changed by the valley when they aquired more pacifics. All there other ones were standard rear cab types. They needed more numbers so were renumbered to the 2300 series. So # 2003 became 2303. It is easy to find photos but hard to get a drawing. I think the Model Railroader ot Feb 1979 had a good drawing. I have 2 of the models, but only 1 is detailed nicely.
* And yes they are Mantua so they run great.
frank

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I thank you all very much! >> http://www.northeast.railfan.net/lv_steam.html <<

4-6-2 K-1 8 2000-2007 1905-1906 Baldwin

John



July 18, 2012
I just added the link and roster numbers. Again, I thank you all.

I don't have a one track mind. It depends on the turn-out.
"I love your catenary!"
Is that a power-trip or just another pick-up line?

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quote:
Anyone else have information on this locomotive, prototype and HO scale?

Thanks to those who respond.

John


Originally posted by zebrails - July 08 2012 :  12:07:27 AM



Motive power of the Lehigh R&LE 1907 V20 P 30.
The link opens up to page 525 0f December 1907 issue of Railway and Locomotive Engineering Magazine. The Article is Titled " The Black Diamond on the Lehigh ". With a picture of a Camelback pacific.
http://books.google.com/books?id=KP1KAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA525&dq=black+diamond+express&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ql0lT4-aF-P40gHas5HSCA&ved=0CGQQuwUwCA#v=onepage&q=black%20diamond%20express&f=false

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hey I just noticed something!
In the prototype photo the 2 wheels at the rear end of the loco are bigger than the HO model!
Or am I crazy?
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quote:
Hi people,


I just bought this locomotive... I know only that it's undecorated and not much more.

It does not appear to have been run much.



I do not know what railroads had these, nor do I know what it's true value is.


I saw one of the newer models/kits on Ebay for at least $100... but that was for the 2-8-0 camelbacks.


Please fill me in on what you know about this locomotive, before I tell you how much I paid for it.

Best, John
p.s. It runs quite smoothly.

Originally posted by zebrails - July 06 2012 :  10:30:11 PM

What is a Mantua locomotive doing in the Athearn thread? I've done something similar to that when I posted my Rivarossi thread in the "other" category when I should have done it in the Rivarossi thread. My bad!

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it's a nice lookin' loco, eh?

We all, once in a while, commit an "oop's" and about two years ago was my last one.
Did you see my collection of demo' locomotives?

John

I don't have a one track mind. It depends on the turn-out.
"I love your catenary!"
Is that a power-trip or just another pick-up line?
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