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BlaxlandAlex3
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I cant say I was the only one that let out a long groan in 2019, when lionel kicked off their new Lionel line with a batch of Butt - Ugly Berkshires. After hearing that they had taken over MRC/ Model Power/ Mantua, I was somewhat hopeful for Model Power and Mantua products. When 2020 rolled around, Lionels website boasted a new Mini - Catalog for the HO line. When I saw the front, I nearly choked.
Yes. It was true.

The line had returned. Mantua projects are set to graze the rails of our HO layouts once more.

Also, take a look at the tan backround of the page. An eagle eye such as mine will notice outlines of locomotives. There are outlines of an F Unit and.....

MY BOOSTER TANK!

this means lionel will be producing these locomotives, I even emailed Lionel and they somewhat hinted at it.

I'm very excited for these releases. And I cant wait to see what else Lionel has up their sleeve!



MSRP: $469.99 - HOLY COW! But typical of lionel. This is barely even a $200 locomotive. Possibly $150 at MOST!

Features
Can Motor W/ Flywheel
Operating Headlight
DCC Equipped
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Crown Vic
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Nice to see Lionel picking up the line, but considering the MSRP, where is the good news?

Granted they have can motors/flywheels/DCC, but geez. Most all of the Mantua steamers can be readily found on ebay for around $100, usually less.
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BlaxlandAlex3
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quote:
Nice to see Lionel picking up the line, but considering the MSRP, where is the good news?

Granted they have can motors/flywheels/DCC, but geez. Most all of the Mantua steamers can be readily found on ebay for around $100, usually less.

Originally posted by Crown Vic - March 31 2020 :  5:42:41 PM



Exactly. These are the later versions mantua and MRC produced before the line was dropped. The good news is that we will start seeing mantua again, considering it was a favoirute of many, including myself.
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Islanderh93
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Well first off, the Berkshire are hideous by any standard of a modern HO modeler.

As for the new Mikados, I will disagree with ya'll on price point. While I feel a lot of Lionel is about 10% more expensive simply because of their name, I want to know how you propose any HO steam locomotive is going to sell for $150 list. A new DCC board typically goes for $50 by itself, and a new HO locomotive would cost $100 by itself... so I don't think it can be done.

That being said, $470 is insane. On Lionel's site right now they have the locomotives listed at $290, which sounds about right for trends within the industry and is comparable to Bachmann.

Still, I don't think you'll see me getting one, mostly on the part that after recent events I really want to avoid buying ANYTHING made in the PRC... but that's another subject.
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Redwoods
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Just got this email from Trainworld. Seems that Lionel has canceled production of all of their HO scale line, including the former Mantua products. Too bad.

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Alicia (TrainWorld)
Apr 7, 2021, 12:51 EDT

Hello,

Lionel has informed us of items/products that will NOT be being produced and thus all of the backorders/preorders for these items have been canceled.
If you are receiving this email, you have at least 1 or more items from the below list that was on backorder and has now been canceled per the manufacturer's decision.

ITEM

DESCRIPTION

1954040

HO Pennsylvania 2 Bay Hopper #250370

1954060

HO Waddell Coal 2 Bay Hopper #102

1954070

HO America Boxcar #1776

1954090

HO USATC Boxcar #26875

1954100

HO Santa Fe Boxcar #16925

1954110

HO New York Central Boxcar #175004

1954120

HO Pennsylvania Boxcar #69003

1954140

HO Christmas Cocoa Tank Car

1954160

HO Fire Dept Training Tank Car #911

1954170

HO Independence Energy Tank Car #1859

1954180

HO T-Rex Oil Tank Car #1880

1954220

HO Trailer Train Flatcar #80220 w/ containers

1954230

HO Trailer Train Flatcar #48231 w/ 2 containers

1954240

HO TTX Flatcar #48240 w/ 2 containers

1954250

HO Santa Fe Flatcar #908555 w/ 2 containers

1954260

HO BNSF Flatcar #908260 w/ 2 containers

1954270

HO CSX Flatcar #600427 w/ 2 containers

1954280

HO Santa Fe Wood Caboose #1350

1954320

HO Southern Wood Caboose #X2713

1954350

HO Lehigh New England Covered Hopper #18150

1954360

HO Lehigh Valley Covered Hopper #90006

1954420

HO MOW Flatcar w/ Water Tanks

1954430

HO Boston & Maine Flatcar w/ Water Tanks

1954440

HO USATC Flatcar w/ Water Tanks

1954450

HO BNSF Flatcar w/ Water Tanks

1954460

HO Union Pacific Flatcar w/ Water Tanks

1954470

HO Fire Department Flatcar w/ Water Tanks

1954480

HO Rose Petal Septic Flatcar w/ Water Tanks

1954510

HO SP Army Recruit Coach

1954520

HO SP Marines Recruit Coach

1954530

HO SP Navy Recruit Coach

1956260

HO Burning House

2054010

Burlington Northern Gondola #54626

2054020

Conrail Gondola #543912

2054030

Norfolk Southern Gondola 197668

2054040

New York Central #924043

2054050

Pennsylvania Gondola #48580

2054060

Pittsburgh & Lake Erie Gondola #17242

2054070

Union Pacific Gondola #48979

2054150

BNSF Flatcar with Reels #90130

2054170

Great Northern Flatcar with Reels #X54170

2054180

Pennsylvania Flatcar with Reels #72937

2054190

Penn Central Flatcar with Reels #768026

2054200

Trailer Train Flatcar with Reels #190974

2054270

Santa Fe Work Caboose with Crane

2054280

Southern Pacific Work Caboose with Crane

2054290

Norfolk Southern Work Caboose with Crane

2054300

Pennsylvania Work Caboose with Crane

2054310

T-Rex Fossil Recovery Work Caboose with Crane

2054600

Union Pacific Gondola #229564

2054610

Southern Gondola #1265

2054620

Bethlehem Steel Gondola #2054

2054630

Bethlehem Steel Flatcar w/ Reels #4630

2054640

Bethlehem Steel Work Caboose with Crane

2054860

Oregon Steel Mills Gondola #6533

2054900

Santa Fe Depressed Center Flatcar w/ Reels #90096

1954370

HO New York Central Covered Hopper #883370

2030220

Highway Lamp (3 Pack)

2056020

Service Station Garage Built Up

2056030

HO Fire Station Built Up

2056040

HO School House

2056060

HO Yang House (Built Up)

2056070

HO Pub Built Up

2056080

HO Bed & Breakfast Built Up

2056090

HO McDaniel House Built Up

2056100

Crossing Signals 2-pack

2056140

"One Night Only" - Blinking Light Billboard

2056150

"Bingo Night" - Blinking Light Billboard

2056230

Detached Garage (2 Pack)

2057010

HO Firemen Figure Pack

2057020

HO People Eating Figure Pack

2057030

HO Couriers Figure Pack

2057040

HO County Road Workers Figure Pack

2057050

HO City Park People Figure Pack

2057060

HO Crime Scenes Figure Pack

2057070

HO Homeless People Figure Pack

2057080

HO Track Laying Crew Figure Pack

2057090

HO Plus Size People Figure Pack

2057110

HO Barn Built Up

2057200

HO Market Workers Figure Pack

2061011

HO Pennsylvania Mikado #9633

2061011

HO Pennsylvania Mikado #9633

2062050

HO Santa Fe Mikado #3158

2062050

HO Santa Fe Mikado #3158

2062060

HO Baltimore & Ohio Mikado #4500

2062060

HO Baltimore & Ohio Mikado #4500

2062070

HO Chesapeake & Ohio Mikado #1067

2062070

HO Chesapeake & Ohio Mikado #1067

2062080

HO Great Northern Mikado #3123

2062080

HO Great Northern Mikado #3123

2062090

HO New York Central Mikado #1548

2062090

HO New York Central Mikado #1548

2062100

HO Union Pacific Mikado #2537

2062100

HO Union Pacific Mikado #2537

2064011

B&LE Ore Car 6 Pack A

2064012

B&LE Ore Car 6 Pack B

2064013

Bessemer & Lake Erie Ore Car #20202

2064013

Bessemer & Lake Erie Ore Car #20202

2064021

C&NW Ore Car 6 Pack A

2064022

C&NW Ore Car 6 Pack B

2064023

Chicago & NorthWestern Ore Car #121175

2064023

Chicago & NorthWestern Ore Car #121175

2064031

DM&IR Ore Car 6 Pack A

2064032

DM&IR Ore Car 6 Pack B

2064033

DM&IR Ore Car #32414

2064033

DM&IR Ore Car #32414

2064041

Great Northern Ore Car 6 Pack A

2064042

Great Northern Ore Car 6 Pack B

2064043

Great Northern Ore Car #89479

2064043

Great Northern Ore Car #89479

2064051

MILW Ore Car 6 Pack A

2064052

MILW Ore Car 6 Pack B

2064053

Milwaukee Rd Ore Car #76101

2064053

Milwaukee Rd Ore Car #76101

2064061

Union Pacific Ore Car 6 Pack A

2064062

Union Pacific Ore Car 6 Pack B

2064063


No further action is needed on your part. If you would like an updated backorder report for what you have on file, please let us know.

Thank you.
Alicia
Trainworld
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Erik The Train Nerd
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Tyco/Mantua Rio Grande 4-8-0

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Well That Sucks.
They were too expensive anyway though
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microbusss
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https://www.lionelstore.com/category/HO-Gauge?custitem_gauge=HO-Gauge
they still listed here
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Chops124
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Huh, so after buying out those three, they decided to quit the HO
line, altogether. That sounds like a huge waste of money.
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RP model railroads
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Disappointing, only in the sense that these classic models won't be given a new production. :( Prices were high anyways.

Who else wishes Mantua, Tyco, or Model Power still existed?

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Erik The Train Nerd
Hudson

Tyco/Mantua Rio Grande 4-8-0

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quote:

Who else wishes Mantua, Tyco, or Model Power still existed?

Originally posted by RP model railroads - April 09 2021 :  07:08:23 AM

We all do
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scsshaggy
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quote:
Who else wishes Mantua, Tyco, or Model Power still existed?
Originally posted by RP model railroads - April 09 2021 :  07:08:23 AM

What I really would like, though I know it's an empty wish, is to have Mantua (and MDC) back how they were when you could order parts from them. It was great for repairs and for kitbashing.

Carpe Manana!
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