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Posted - May 28 2017 : 4:30:19 PM
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Here's something interesting. I acquired a set of Varney streamliners a few months back. The cars are all metal except for the plastic ends. The metal is in fair shape (no obvious signs of moisture, UV damage, etc.), but every piece of plastic is covered in a white grime. The grime is soft enough to be scraped away by a finger nail, revealing pristine, colour-matched plastic. Here is a before photo showing the end of the observation car, and another photo after some scrubbing...
Has anyone ever seen this before? Along with the white grime, the plastic also has a faint, almost pungent smell to it. I've heard of early plastics being plant-based and having a tendency to break down over time. That's my best guess on what's happening.
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Posted - May 28 2017 : 7:21:16 PM
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That is normal for the early varney plastics.Not sure what they used.It may have been something organic? The early metal boxcars commonly have the white grim coated plastic roof walks and hatches. If the roof walk is left off the model, it shrinks to the point where it can not be reattached.
You can clearly see the white coating on the parts on this PRR boxcar I sold. It takes some work, but it does come off.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PENNSYLVANIA-PRR-MERCHANDISE-92420-VARNEY-BOXCAR-VINTAGE-HO-CRAFTSMAN-KIT-BUILT-/371928527608?hash=item5698aaf2f8:g:SlcAAOSwkShY~QEM
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Posted - May 28 2017 : 7:31:59 PM
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I'd wager it is a cellulose base plastic. Hmm... While I don't know from memory of decomposition issues with it, I do know that model ship museums are having trouble with decomposition of lead-based cast metal detail parts. http://www.navsea.navy.mil/Home/Warfare-Centers/NSWC-Carderock/Resources/Curator-of-Navy-Ship-Models/Lead-Corrosion-in-Exhibition-Ship-Models/
Anyway, back to the plastic, Ah, a bit of playing in Google found this, https://pubs.acs.org/cen/science/89/8929sci1.html quote:Chemical & Engineering News July 18, 2011 Volume 89, Number 29 pp. 29 - 31 Preserving Plastic Art Chemistry of polymer-based creations presents unique problems for conservators Sarah Everts
Since the invention of plastics in the late 1800s, artists and designers have been using them to make everything from high-fashion hair combs and intricate sculptures to moon-mission spacesuits. But “the number of plastics used by artists increased dramatically in the 1960s,” Shashoua explains, during that era’s love affair with all things plastic and the corresponding increased availability of polymers. Yet it took until the 1990s before the museum world got over what conservators refer to as “plastics denial syndrome”—denying that plastics in a museum’s collection have short lifetimes and degrade—and woke up to the fact that many pieces of plastic-containing art were in grave danger of being lost, van Oosten says.
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Although cellulose acetate, cellulose nitrate, PVC, and polyurethane are the most problematic plastics, museum objects made from polyester and polypropylene are also beginning to show problems, Shashoua says.
Because any conservation or cleaning strategy is specific to a plastic type, museum staff need to know an object’s precise plastic makeup. But few plastic art objects come with a chemical ingredient list, and not all museums have laboratories with the tools—primarily infrared and other spectroscopic equipment—to help analyze them. Conservators sometimes have to rely on their sense of smell to guide their plastic diagnosis, Shashoua says. Leaching phthalate plasticizers give PVC the smell of a new car, she explains, while cellulose acetate smells like vinegar, and polyester has the odor of raspberry jam, cinnamon, and burning rubber. |
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Posted - May 29 2017 : 10:15:10 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. I was unaware the breakdown also caused shrinkage, but it makes sense based on how the roof of the observation car is bowing downwards. At least the plastic only makes up small portions of the model...
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Posted - May 29 2017 : 10:46:41 AM
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I think the "whte stuff' is a mold of some kind. Remember, these plastics have organic oils in them, so they'll attract mold in damp environments. Later plastics don't have the organics , so are not as prone to white nasties forming all over them. Molds are airborne , so can settle anywhere, but won't flourish unless they have the right material to thrive on. Unfortunately, some of those early plastics are apparently likable to them.
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Posted - May 29 2017 : 12:12:19 PM
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SO Plastics go back to 19th Century Always thought it was after WW 1
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